Trajan Arabia and Camel Denarius -- OPTIMO PRINCI??

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    In the course of photographing this one, I noticed something I hadn't before -- the reverse inscription is not COS V P P S P Q R OPTIMO PRINC, but ... PRINCI. This reverse variety is not described in BMCRE2, RIC, or Cohen. I can't find another example at acsearchinfo. Does anyone have Woytek? Is is listed in there? Does anyone know of another example of this reverse legend variety?

    Post your Trajans, your personifications of the Roman provinces, or other coins you feel are relevant!

    Trajan Arabia denarius.jpg
    Trajan, AD 98-117.
    Roman AR denarius, 3.35 g, 18.3 mm, 7 h.
    Rome, AD 103-111.
    Obv: IMP TRAIANO AVG GER DAC P M TR P, laureate bust, right, with drapery on left shoulder.
    Rev: COS V P P S P Q R OPTIMO PRINCI, Arabia, draped, standing left, holding branch in right hand over camel walking left before her and a bundle of canes (?) in left hand.
    Refs: RIC 142 var.; BMCRE 297-299 var.; Cohen 89 var.; Sear --; ERIC II 400 var.
    Notes: The usual reverse inscription reads ... PRINC.
     
    Last edited: May 21, 2019
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  3. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Interesting variety, sorry I can't shed any light on it. After checking my mottled toning example, I'm sorry to report it is the common "PRINC" version:

    Trajan - Camel Den Apr. 2018 (0).jpg

    Last month I picked up the drachm version of this issue - for Bostra or Cappadocia, depending on who you consult:

    Trajan Bostra drachm Apr 2019 (0).jpg
     
  4. Bing

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  5. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    Trajan Denarius Woytek 285c RIC 142var Bust with aegis on far shoulder trajand35.jpeg
     
  6. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ...i still have the "now famous" Rabbel ll overtstrike ..one of my favs...(& soon to belong to JAZ:)) trajan denari  arabian and victory reverses 001.JPG trajan denari  arabian and victory reverses 003.JPG
     
  7. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    That's an interesting variety – good that you noticed! My own camel denarius only has PRINC:

    Rom – Trajan, Denar, Arabia und Kamel.png
    Trajan, Roman Empire, denarius, 103–111 AD, Rome mint. Obv: [IMP TRAI]ANO AVG GER DAC P M TR P; bust of Trajan, laureate, r. Rev: CO[S V P P S P Q ]R OPTIMO PRINC, Arabia standing l., holding branch in r. hand and a bundle of cinnamon sticks in l., camel at feet to l. 17mm, 3.07g. Ref: RIC II Trajan 142 (denarius).
     
  8. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    My favorite Trajan
    IMP TRAIANO AVG GER DAC P M TR P COS VII PP
    SPQR OPTIMO PRINCIPI / ARAB ADQ
    Trajan Arabia denarius.jpg
     
  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I'd prefer to see more from the die before declaring the extra I a letter rather than a dot or damage. My ArabAdq is 'messy' in that region and has what you might read as an extra I among other possibilities. Yes it is a coin to be studied but I'd stop short of declaring it a catalogable variety pending seeing confirming coins.
    rc1651bb2848.jpg
     
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  10. Limes

    Limes Well-Known Member

    04 Trajanus Arabia.jpg

    This one says Principi
     
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