hi.... once again, i think trades (especially cc) as well as key dates of any series, need to be certified by a reputable tpg or else you need much expertise. especially more expertise than i have. i am having difficulty authenticating this due to the numerous surface, field and rim problems on both obverse and reverse of the coin. i also was not able to match up the mintmark w/ a type 1 or 2. this does not mean that it is fake...it only means that my reference materials and knowledge of this particular series is lacking. there is so much to learn in every series of u.s coinage w/o delving into foreign and ancient material (not that this is either, tho you understand my point numismatics is a vast field!) thank you for sharing your coin, but i am not prepared to call it authentic. i will leave that to the experts in this field...please use diagnostics, ect. while you teach us. thanks again for sharing, sincerely....steve
Looks good to me but would look better in person, as in, it was mine! Thanks for sharing it with us. :thumb: Ribbit
Standards were very tight for TDs, and this one is only 419 grains. The apparent wear doesn't justify the loss of a full grain. Gotta be very suspicious..
Keeping in mind that I'm not an expert, I would say it's a counterfeit. The cc is placed wrong for one thing.
It appears to be legit to me. It looks like there used to be chopmarks on the coin and someone buffed it to get them out. I'd venture the buffing wore that grain of silver off.
my only concerns were the mint mark placement, as well as the overall surface conditions including appearance of small "cuds on rim". i can understand some chopmarks, but even if iy has been poilshed , i was not able to determine true chinese characters which have been polished down.. it has an abundance of dings everywhere. once again, rotobeast has much more knowledge than i, so i am simply only offering my own opinion w/o delving deep into some 75-cc's to compare. thanks for all comments and if anyone can confirm this coin's status...please explain so that i, and others, may learn....thank you again.......steve
Look here for information on what to look for on the fake Trade Dollars: http://www.coinworld.com/news/102802/news-3.asp Here's an excerpt: "The 1875-CC fake's reverse has noticeable tooling around the branch below the eagle's left wing (the viewer's right), and diagonal depressions above the second S in STATES, between the T in TRADE and R in GRAINS, above the E in UNITED and between the D in UNITED and S in STATES." Ribbit Ps: This fake doesn't look like the one in question but that doesn't mean the one in question isn't a fake.
Compare these 2 coins. The first is from Coinfacts.com and the next is from this thread posted above. Does it seem likely to you that the folds in the seated womans dress are too defined to compensate for the harshly marked coin, both OBV. & REV.? http://www.coinfacts.com/silver_dollars/trade_dollars/1873_trade_dollar.htm Maybe I've just got caught up in this Trade Dollar thing, as often being a fake; when bought on Eba. Mine wasn't, and I expect many others weren't fakes either. But as we've been shown many times here at CT, many fakes of all denominations, are being sold as originals. :loud: We are way fortunate to have a broad spectrum of knowledgeable and fun loving numismatists, along with fellow hobbyist's and scholars on the subject of MONEY in all forms. People like US who actually care about our fellow collectors and care about the direction this hobby is going in and care enough to want to try and stop the parasites that infiltrate this hobby.
