Toning in proof 2000 set - why?

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  1. Acer0001

    Acer0001 New Member

    I have been collecting the proof set s for some time and I decided to take a gander through them. I noticed that the 2000 state quarters from the proof set box have a definite blue toning to them. The other coins (cent, nickel, etc.) are fine with no toning. All my other proof sets have no signs of toning. Why would this one be doing this? Does this degrade the value of the set? Should I consider getting another set to replace them?

    Concerned,

    Acer0001
     

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  3. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Looks like they might have been stored improperly. How did you store it? Did you have it near any heat or humidity?

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  4. Acer0001

    Acer0001 New Member

    I have kept them up on a shelf away from heat. I have a silca pack (from some electronics I received) in the box, hopefully sucking up humidity. The funny thing is that the other coins in that same proof set are fine and 15 other years of proof sets in the same box are fine as well. This is why I am wondering why these only.

    It's also weird that the toning on the obverse is around the edges and the toning on the reverse is in the middle.

    Should I replace them?

    Acer0001
     
  5. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    Depending on how that quarter set looks in hand, some people might actually pay more. I sure would like to see some better pictures, I bet those bad boys look snazzy!
     
  6. ML94539

    ML94539 Senior Member

    I also think this set might be worth more because of toning.
     
  7. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    Don't forget that silica gel packs become saturated and have to be regenerated (by heating in an oven) periodically. How long they last depends on their size and the ambient conditions. I have dessicant canisters with indicators and I found that over the summer, I had to regenerate them every couple of weeks and that was even though they were stored in a plastic storage container. Also keep in mind that the silica gel packs that come with consumer electronics tend to be very small and get saturated quickly. You can buy much larger ones from coin supply dealers. They're not expensive so you can buy a large number of them.

    If you put the proof sets into ziplock storage bags with a dessicant pack they'll be protected from humidity for a much longer period of time without having to change the dessicant packs. That method also allows you to look at the coins without exposing them to the air.
     
  8. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

  9. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    If the coins are colored when tilted into the light, they could be worth a premium, but if the toning is merely hazing and not colored then it would likely hurt the value....Mike
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Mike's right - toning is good, haze is not.
     
  11. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Furthermore, from the photos and my experience, I'll wager it is hazing, not colored toning.

    But I hope that I'm wrong!!!
     
  12. JBK

    JBK Coin Collector

    I was wondering - can haze turn to colored toning? I seem to recall some hazy coins that went blueish. (I also have a proof half that is hazed to the pojt it looks frosted - not a nice effect).
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not gonna say it's impossible but it usually just gets more and more blurry.
     
  14. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    They look good. Better turning blue than black. I'd let them continue to tone and see what you get. You can always get another set for about $20.

    Bruce
     
  15. Acer0001

    Acer0001 New Member

    I did look on Ebay and they are around $20, so I think I will let them go and see if they continue to tone. It's just so weired that no other proof sets have done this, even the ones in the same box!

    Acer0001
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    It's not weird if you understand what causes haze to begin with - improper rinsing after washing by the mint. So it happens to some and not to others.
     
  17. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Hello from Beijing - Just a little way from home this week but cannot sleep so here I am at 2am reading cointalk :)


    Doug if what you say is true I would would not expect that all coins would be hazing the same? I would have thought that One coin as part of a group of blanks used with a specific die would have hazed? I would not think they run all of the different quaters at the same time? How even the change looks on each I would have thought it looked more like toning?

    If it is toning, I bet they look very nice! Hope it works out!!!

    Best Regards

    Darryl
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Darryl - perhaps you should read this. Click Here
     
  19. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Thanks, So it looks like it was a very-very broad experiment which would affect all of the coins minted during this period of time at the mint. Introducing new processes/chemicals into the production of coins is apparently very risky and sometimes costly.

    Thanks again for the reading - did not help the sleep issue so it must have been informative :bow: - Lesson is - Check those sets carefully before you buy!!!
     
  20. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    Very attractive tone/haze. Personally I prefer coins with a slight haze to ones in brilliant state (this is obvious in the german side of my collection !), but almost everyone I know disagrees with me !
     
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