Toned Rooservelt Dimes?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by mrbrklyn, Oct 9, 2005.

  1. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Hello

    I ran across this today so I figured I'd ask the experts since a google search came up blank.

    What the heck is a toned Rooservelt dime and why isn't the toning considered a defect?

    Ruben
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Hmmmm - I typed "toned Roosevelt dime" into Google's advanced search and came up with over 400 hits :confused:

    But anyway, here is an example of a toned Roosevelt dime - CLICK HERE

    Now then, your other question - some people do consider toning to be a defect. On the other hand, some folks consider it to be extremely desirable and will pay outrageous prices for toned coins. They find them pretty.
     
  4. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    Wow pretty colors
     
  5. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    It's not really a defect as it depends on how and where it was stored. :)
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You're correct gxs - it is the natural way of things. Nonetheless, some collectors absolutely hate toned coins and do think of toning as a defect. From a purely technical point of view they are correct - it is oxidation after all.

    But that doesn't stop me from liking it as much as I do ;)
     
  7. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Yeah

    that's the part I don't understand and which I couldn't find in google. Pictures of toned dimes I find.

    I thought maybe it was something done by the mint intentionally. Why would anyone pay extra for it. Its a rusty coin! If I throw a dime into the laudry a few times, its nearly certain to "tone" nicely, thank you very much...

    Ruben
     
  8. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    You see, coins that are artifically toned usually would degrade it a worse coloring regardless of how you preserve it. And most of the time, there are ways to tell whether it's artifically done or it's natural. Of course, there is no guarantee that natural toned coins will remain like that forever. Do note that natural toning does take a fair bit of time. :)

    I guess the thing is, there are people who got bored over the plain shiny lustre theme that has been going on... :)
     
  9. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    That type of toning is considered damage by almost all collectors. Toning that occurs "naturally" (i.e. slowly), sits more "deeply" on the coin whereas artificial toning like the kind that comes from running a coin through the wash seems to "float" on the surface. That's a tough definition to follow based on a text description alone, but it is easier to see when comparing them side-by-side.
     
  10. SCNuss

    SCNuss Senior Member

    I have several State quarters that have a "golden" tone (no, they are not gold-plated), and it is attractive, IMHO. I have considered trying to assemble a "toned" set. It might not be valuable, but it would be unusual.
     
  11. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    I've seen that is the pictures of many of the Wisconsin Quarters. The coins are being made so cheaply now, your going to see all kinds of wierdness in the coming years. We already have "almost" copper pennies that are feather light, so pail in color I've sometimes thought them to be dimes or foriegn and conduct no electricity so that they can be used for insultation!

    Mazal Tov to the mint!

    Actually, it might be time to just stop making pennies (and nickles)

    Ruben
     
  12. SapperNurse

    SapperNurse DOD enhanced

    Toned Roosevelt 1998 P

    I was really bored last night with nothing interesting on TV so I did a few experiemtns with a routine Lincoln cent, Roosevelt Dime, and a State Quarter. I was placing each coin into my nice toasty fireplace on the back of a flat shovel. The first penney lost its copper experience, second melted ( oops) the quarter picked up a nice golden glaze to it after being put in the fire twice on each side for 40 seconds each. Here are my dime pics tho: 40 seconds adn 30 seconds on each side. IT came out a beautiful color that i thought was just neat. Luckily It is at least still worth 10 cents lol:desk:
     

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  13. Burks

    Burks New Member

    You can turn cents into some pretty crazy colors depending on the amount of heat used. I've made some ranging from a bright yellow to deep red to purple.
     
  14. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    I've had this really pretty RED 1980 cent in my collection for a long time.Every time I look at it,it gets redder.Hopefully it's natural toning but even if it isn't who cares?I like toning as long as its pretty and even.
    By the way,anyone notice the restyling job on lincoln's hair? Looks like he got a makeover,nose job,cheek implants,neck lift,botox in the lips and all.
     

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  15. jimmy-bones

    jimmy-bones Senior Member

    If you prefer tonined coins, the best way to tone coins in my opinion is "naturally". I've discovered a method by accident, but it takes about 18 years to complete. I purchased an MS65 set of 1946-1964 Roosevelts about 18 years ago. The coins were housed in a classic Blue Whitman folder. I placed the original invoice in the book for safekeeping. Well, 18 years later, I have a complete set of beautifully rainbow toned Roosevelts. I think the combination of invoice paper and coin album did it! I'm not a toned coin collector, so when I first discovered this happened, I was upset...but now I've grown to appreciate their appearance.
     
  16. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    2.5 grams of tarnished coin silver

    IMHO it is a defect, and I'll be D-double [​IMG] if I can grasp the concept that it adds value. :headbang:
     
  17. Burks

    Burks New Member

    The toned coin craze will eventually die out, but not completely. Some coins just look horrible when toned like Mercs, Peace dollars, and Trade dollars. Those look best when white or have a little golden tone around the rims.

    Of course everything above is my own personal opinion.
     
  18. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    On the contrary it has not yet even started. You will not go wrong buying beauty. Attractive toning makes a common coin a one of a kind unique work of art.
     
  19. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    I second that!!!
     
  20. Burks

    Burks New Member

    When that beauty becomes common place due to AT then it won't be so unique. I've seen beautiful coins tone even more and look like crap.

    I just don't think it will last long. But it very well could keep going and never stop.
     
  21. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    I'm sure a psychologist could have a field day investigating all of the deep-seated problems coin collectors have when they get upset over toning. I don't consider toned coins to be either more or less valuable. They just are. Of course there is ugly toning and nice toning, which is more a matter of taste than condition. Personally I just prefer grey to wild colors.

    It's also difficult to understand why a coin that has been handed out as change from a bank roll by the gas station attendant with oily hands, laying in beer on the bar, thrown in the cash register, and sitting in a coin jar for a long time before being spent will be "discovered" by a collector as a nice EF example. But if he runs it under a stream of water it immediately becomes "cleaned" and therefore essentially worthless. It's a good thing we don't know where all of those old EF morgan dollars have been.
     
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