Tiny Owl

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by 7Calbrey, Jan 27, 2017.

  1. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Only the famous owl on reverse of this Tiny silver coin pushed me to buy it. It seemed reminiscent of the ancient Greek tetradrachm that has Athena on the obverse. Here the crested person or goddess differs a little from Athena. The coin weighs only 1.88 g. Please post your informative comments. Tino O.JPG Tinow R.JPG
     
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  3. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The style and fabric of this coin does not seem familiar to me. The weight would make it a triobol or hemidrachm (6 obols = 1 drachm) but I really doubt that it is ancient. Athenian owls come in a variety of sizes from 1/8 obol to ten drachms. They were made over many years in a variety of styles. The standard style for the hemidrachm has a facing owl rather than the pose used on the tetradrachm, drachm, obol and hemiobol. If your coin is ancient, it is not from Athens, in my opinion, and not a barbarous style I have seen.

    Where did you buy the coin? I hope it was a trusted dealer who knows more than I do.
    My hemidrachm:
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    A hemiobol 0.35g:
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  4. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    I once posted an ancient owl tetradrachm which was not struck in Athens.It turned to be real or ancient and considered as a contemporary imitation.
    I bought this coin together with another Parthian silver one, from the same dealer. I think it's a drachm but I can't identify the ruler. It weighs 3.39 g. Here it is. Parthi O.JPG Parth R.JPG
     
  5. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    I appreciate @dougsmit questioning the legitimacy of this piece - it appears suspect to me also. I notice the features of the mouth and nose and other facial details like the eyes just seem off. Then you get to the reverse, the owl has an appearance of an unnatural "bug eye" feature that calls the authenticity into question.

    Admittedly I am much more familiar with the drachms and multiples there of rather than the fractional coins - but I would want a lot more research on this piece before committing to it.
     
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  6. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    yeah, 7C, i don't know about this one either...what a strange style.
     
  7. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    At first I thought it was anime.
    images-3.jpg
    Like Doug said it could be a Hemidrachm, but I am also unaware of the style. It is suspicious.
     
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    My Silver Owls with Athena are all TETS.

    However, I do have a few AE / Bronze Owls with Athena:

    Sicily Kamarina AE 15mm 3.4g 420-405 BCE Athena Owl Lizard 3 dots Sear Gk 1063.JPG
    Sicily Kamarina AE 15mm 3.4g 420-405 BCE Athena Owl Lizard 3 dots Sear Gk 1063
    Ex: @Valentinian


    Sicily Kalakte AE unit 2nd C BCE Head Athena in Helmet - Owl rev  Obv-Rev RARE.JPG
    Sicily Kalakte AE unit 2nd C BCE Head Athena in Helmet - Owl rev Obv-Rev RARE
    Ex: @John Anthony


    Athens 224-198 BC AE 12 Athena 2 Facing Owls RARE Agora 71 O-R.jpg
    Athens 224-198 BC AE 12 Athena 2 Facing Owls RARE Agora 71
     
  9. hoth2

    hoth2 Well-Known Member

    My first thought at the owl was fake too, and that drachm looks cast...

    I hope we're wrong though!
     
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  10. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    It is a surely cast fake. I agree with Doug and others that the owl is also doubtful.
     
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  11. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    This little guy is only 0.34 grams & 6.2 - 6.9 mm. I believe it to be a genuine ancient product.
    Athens Hemiobol Rev on Cent.jpg
     
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    That is what I would expect from a genuine official hemiobol --- a nice one at least on this side.
     
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