Thurium Lucania ?

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  1. Lorenzian

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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice!
     
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  4. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow Lorenzian, gorgeous coin ... congrats

    => ummm, here is a link to another example on CNG (only $32,500)


    https://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=207892

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    The example above is twice as heavy as your cool OP example (15.2 grams)

    ... sadly, this is
    "not" my coin
     
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  5. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

    The distater is 4th century BC. Not as common as 4th century staters but they come up quite often. OP's stater on other hand has wreath so it's late 5th century BC,more scarce.
     
  6. ancientnut

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  7. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Am I the only one to find something not quite right about the OP coin? I am not sure if it's the patination pattern or the edges but something is nagging at me. Do you have images of the edge?
     
  8. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Im with Martin, looks like a fake maybe.
     
  9. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I have to go with Martin's misgivings on this one. I'm not very familiar with this issue, but something about the wear and toning just looks a little off.
     
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  10. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Here's another stater from Lucania, Thourioi (6.9gm - 18 mm)
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  11. Greetings everyone; I haven't been around for a few months.
    @maridvnvm don't you remember your own work? Just kidding; I know you have submitted hundreds of fakes to forvm. You probably submitted this one 5-10 years ago.
    Thurium.jpg
    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news; but it appears to be an obverse die match on a different shaped flan; with the reverse being close but with some slight variations.

    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=19
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2016
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  12. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    Here is a working link to the FORVM fake: http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-2874

    For whatever reason, FORVM's gallery is implemented so that you can't just copy and paste the link from your address bar, you have to click the "i" button above the image and then copy the link that appears below.
     
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  13. I noticed that hyperlinks for the fake reports only work when you're logged in. Strange.
     
  14. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

    obv is a die match but rev isn't. how you guys suppose that was done? They cut more than one fake dies for the same run?
     
  15. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    There are two different sets of hyperlinks in the fake reports. Some are relative links, such as the serach result above which goes to the 19th result in the search, which is different for everyone because the search terms aren't in the url. The second are absolute links like the second which will always go the to same coin. just a quirk of the dbase being used.

    Now I know what was nagging at me..... doh. That fake report was submitted in December 2006 and is one of alomost 2,400 fake reports I have made.

    I am not sure that the reverse die is different. It could just be the toning and lighting making them look different. There are too many points of correspondence to my eyes for them to be different. These were normally stamped to identify them as a copy between the bull's legs. There is an oddity there on the OP coin too.
     
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  16. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

    I thought the distance between letters and back of the animal were different, but that could just be an illusion since the OP coin has a smaller flan.
    The bull's face looked a bit weird, like a horse's face.
     
  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Could the dark spot between the legs be some sort of coverup for the word "copy"?
     
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