Thoughts on this Toned Morgan

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Coinsnake, Sep 7, 2011.

  1. Coinsnake

    Coinsnake MorganMan

    Picked this up today. She's not the prettiest or the rarest, but I LOVE the color! It looks naturally toned to me, but I'm no 'expert'. So any thoughts you've got let me hear em.

    Let me know if you think NGC would grade her and if it would have enough premium to justify the grading fee.

    Sorry for the low quality pics.

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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    I like "blue"......:)
  4. Vroomer2

    Vroomer2 Active Member

    That's an old coin. :)
  5. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    looks like a nice grade (MS-64?) as for the doesnt do anything for me..but this is without the coin in hand and hey you know, as long as you like it, thats all that matters
  6. petro89

    petro89 Member

    I agree on the 64. The toning is pretty unique and not typical but it is natural in my opinion. I like it and I think its a good addition.
  7. petro89

    petro89 Member

    I don't know if the toning is covering up any marks, but I think she might even fetch a 65.
  8. Coinsnake

    Coinsnake MorganMan

    She's probably no 65 because there's a little gash in the upper right middle of her cheek, but I'm pretty sure she'd get a 63 for sure.....maaaybe a 64.
  9. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

    i guess without really looking at it im gonna have to say it doesnt look right. the toning makes part of it look dirty and i dont really see any transition from one side to the other.
  10. Vroomer2

    Vroomer2 Active Member


    Did someone clean the raised areas of the reverse and not the fields?
  11. Coinsnake

    Coinsnake MorganMan

    Not sure. I'll have to look tomorrow to se what you're referring to.
  12. Coinsnake

    Coinsnake MorganMan

    Not that I can see.
  13. Cmcart

    Cmcart Well-Known Member

    How much cost to grade the coin?
  14. rev1774

    rev1774 Well-Known Member

    I like the blueish color on that coin myself...~~
  15. Coinsnake

    Coinsnake MorganMan

    With the grading fee + shipping + insurance, about $40-$50
  16. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    What you should do is a little research on what this coin's value is for a 63, and 64 grade and decide if paying the $40-$50 to submit it would justify the submission.
  17. Coinsnake

    Coinsnake MorganMan

    I've already done that and the answer is no, it wouldn't for a 'normal' coin of this date/mm/condition. My question is what kind of premium would this color of toning add to the value of this coin. If it would increase the desirability of the coin it would possibly be worth the cost of grading.
  18. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I say NT, looks like original toning to me.

    Actually it looks very much like "dipping candidates" back in the day. Sorry, but the toning doesn't do anything for me. I saw these dipped by the rolls back when toning, unless really pretty, was undesired.

    I called it "damp toning" since you usually found evidence of some dampness in the past on the rolls when you were opening them. Not wet, since then the coins would be chalky black and ruined, just a little dampness evident. I opened up lots of rolls like that, not "original" rolls, but stuff put in rolls in the 60's.

    Just my opinion.


    Edit: Just to add, not meaning to demean your coin. I like the obverse, but am worried about the flat color in the lower right reverse. It should be ok but you need to stop the toning completely right now or else it will lead to damage. It could be the photo that has me believing that, and if so I apologize.

    That is the reason I was saying it was a dipping candidate back in the day. Dipping will stop the toning reaction easily, and make it easier to judge the grade of the coin. If the toning on the reverse is flat or matte black, you may have difficulty getting it graded. There is no telling what is under a flat or matte toning. Again, why these used to be dipped to prove the surface was unharmed.
  19. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    That color and pattern would add a small premium, it would be desirable to collectors who are not turned off by toning. I for one, like toning on the silver coins from the 19th century, and I wouldn't be bothered paying an additional $20-$25 on top of the value for this one.
  20. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    I would not expect that kind of toning to add any value. And I don't see how anyone can make a reasonable grade-guess based on the photos.

    The important thing is you like it. Stick it in an Intercept holder to keep it from developing further. If it is exposed to more humid air it will likely become very dark.
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