This seller is said to be a fake coin seller

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  1. Beginner345

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  3. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I didn't see any obvious fakes in his inventory, although one always has to be careful with certain types, like the Pontika drachms and Alexander tets. Whose fake seller list is he on? He's not on FORVM's.

    Edit: I can't speak to the artifacts.
     
  4. Brian Bucklan

    Brian Bucklan Well-Known Member

    I agree with @John Anthony. I took a cursory look and the coins look ok to me, but some of the pieces of exonumia may be a bit sketchy.
     
  5. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Yes, he is a fake seller. That does not mean that every coin he sells is fake. Many fake sellers have many authentic coins with a few fakes sprinkled in. These guys are best to be avoided, even if you think a coin is genuine...there are plenty of people that are honest sellers.
     
  6. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I completely agree with @Victor_Clark . With hundreds of thousands (really!) of genuine ancient coins on the market right now, why look among the stock of someone known to sell fakes? There aren't enough coins elsewhere?
     
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  7. Beginner345

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    I figured that as well but if this si the case, then ANYONE could be on that list. Even reputable sellers who sometimes make mistakes. They can happen- even accidently

    I mean Noahs-ark-USA is a blatant fake seller, but some people might think their own coins are real and sell them as such
     
  8. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    No. The fakesellers lists are limited to sellers who sell fakes far too often to simply be well-intentioned mistakes. That's why the major reputable sellers are not on the lists, even though, as you suggest, they have probably made at least one mistake sometime in the past.

    Read the introduction to this page about fakesellers:
    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/fakesellers.html
    Ignore its advice at your own peril.
     
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  9. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Most of the antiquities are fake. As for the coins, most look OK superficially, but if you look closely the style is really not right for a lot of them, and they have an odd consistent appearance despite the centuries in between them. I would not bother with them.
     
  10. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    If you look through his completed lots you will see that he has been selling loads of fake silver's. At one point it was most of his inventory. I expect it will be again.
     
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  12. Roman Collector

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  13. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    Silverdenar is the exact same person as "Ancientground" who is infamous for selling silver fakes. Silverdenar, like Ancientground sell original (low-grade) bronze coins and fake or at least doubtful silver coins.
     
  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    To me, it is not even a question: Personally, if I find that they are on ANY reputable fake sellers list, I NEVER buy from them. EVEN if they have good coins. I NEVER want to support those disreputable Sellers with my money. I want them to go out of business due to their poor reputation. There are plenty of coins and plenty of reputable Sellers out there that I can support a LEGITIMATE Seller with my purchases.
     
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  15. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Yes, but with a known fake seller you have a much higher probability risk of buying a fake.

    With a known seller who tries to sell everything authentic, your risk should be much lower. And they'll probably take a return no questions asked if otherwise.

    Reputation is hard to build without morales and a good return policy.
     
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  16. Plumbata

    Plumbata Well-Known Member

    I don't know coins as well as antiquities, and agree with Ken 100%. Aside from mediocre common items of little inherent interest their artifacts are all horrible modern fakes, same with those of Ancientground. I'm not sure what their scheme is, but by offering cheapo authentic commons maybe they draw in and hook novices into buying their fancier forgeries and artifakes.
     
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  17. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    They build up feedback score.
     
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  18. Barry Murphy

    Barry Murphy Well-Known Member

    I just browsed the first few pages of his listings. Most of his antiquities are fake and most of the coins that would be worth more than $75 or so are fake.

    Cyzicus Hecte is fake.
    Geta/septimius denarius is fake
    Alexander of Carthage is fake.
    Septimius/domna is fake.
    Julius Caesar is fake.

    I quit looking after this.

    If you can’t tell, don’t buy from this seller. Honestly if you can’t tell these are fake don’t buy from eBay.

    Barry Murphy.
     
  19. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member

    ty
    I did notice some were fakes but not all
     
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