This is a tougher GTG.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Pickin and Grinin, Feb 19, 2024.

  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Anyone notice the radial die lines at the bottom of the reverse? In hand they start looking like radial die cracks.
    Tis the only reason I bought it in a slab.
    What's the Grade of Ole Washington?
    Happy Presidents Day.
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  3. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    More modern than I'm used to doing but I'll say 66
     
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  4. The Half Dime

    The Half Dime Arrows!

    Are those raised? If so, you'd likely have a Mint Error MS66+. If not, UNC details. :)
     
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  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Those are the heaviest of the lines. As struck they look raised like die cracks, when you start looking at the surfaces they are everywhere in a radial pattern that says a die wasn't surfaced correctly, if my theory is correct then this look is present on many die examples, compared to an error that may have only happened once.
     
  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

  7. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Super nice 58
     
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  8. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    I don't know diddly about grading Washingtons, but for funsies I'll say 65. Logic dictates you wouldn't have picked it up though unless it was that at a minimum, having followed your posts.:D
     
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  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I’m thinking a strong MS-64.
     
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  10. Anthony Mazza

    Anthony Mazza Well-Known Member

  11. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

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  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The guess's are a little light. I may hold off till the morning for the reveal.
     
  13. numist

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  14. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    I'm going to be an outlier on this one. There's a number of anomalies I see. Most notably:

    In front of Washington's face there is a plethora of black spots. Very difficult to see due to the lighting. Zoom in and you can see them.
    On the reverse, above the 2nd 'S' in States and on the eagles right (facing) leg are similar spots that I just can't identify.

    AU58

    Not withstanding the above, it's a beautiful Washie. I'd display it proudly.
     
  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Well after searching some auction archives I don't feel to bad about my photos. We had 1 here that got the grade correct. @Mainebill
    This coin has that very fine and brilliant luster that is hard to capture thru a slab. It also has less contact than recent MS 66 and 66+. If interested go look thru coin facts.
    The spots on the obverse are toning, orange and some blues.
    The spot on the leg is contact. The only other contact is the mark across the jaw and you have to look catch it in the right light. same for a small amount of contact on the Eagles beak. The coin is nearly contact free.
    I personally think this should be in a 67 or better slab.
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  16. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I have been known to buy quite a few lower end coins. If I had my choice I would buy mostly AU58. But that grade has gone to the waste side in the past 10 years.
     
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  17. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    It's tough to judge how nice (or not) a coin is from photographs, even PCGS photograde doesn't really tell you the whole story. I'll buy slabbed coins online because it minimizes risk........but that is a double edged sword. Most of the time it will cost near retail for that very reason, unless something is up for bid during the middle of a weekday and slides under the radar. The fun part is "stealing" nice raw coins at the end of an auction. Again, that requires risk in accuracy of photos. I've been burnt a couple of times. But, no risk, no reward.
     
  18. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    It looked like it had monster luster. And really clean. I know modern (to me)stuff graded different. I looked at it like a walker or a Merc with luster and contact
     
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