http://cgi.ebay.com/1922-Grant-Comm...S_Individual?hash=item5ad5daf5fb#ht_500wt_956 I say.. Yes. Too blast white for luster in my opinion on those..
check out what those commems were selling for twenty years ago, they have dropped like a rock, I was listening to a conversation at the coin store a while back, the subject was what coins were likely to get hot, one collector made quite a case for the 1892-1954 commemoratives to rise because they had dropped so far, and the mintages were low, it is all speculation but he made a good case, I picked up a few comms, but my problem with them is understanding the grade, for 99 tho if it is real is one of the best prices I have seen for them. problem is that lots of people like to buy at bullion values, unless it is a mint state modern, and then lots of people that have to sell find that they cannot get more than bullion for their modern silver proof sets
I don't see any signs of a harsh cleaning either. Blast white isn't an indicator of a harsh cleaning, a dip, yes, but not harsh cleaning.
Almost certainly dipped. It is market acceptable though, not harshly cleaned, although it doesn't appeal to my tastes.
You need to understand BNB - a coin being dipped is not equated with a coin being cleaned. Dipping coins is pretty much universally accepted in the numismatic community. Now that doesn't mean that everybody likes dipped coins, it just means they are accpeted as being problem free. This is why it so important that when people say cleaned, and they mean harshly or improperly cleaned, that use the correct terminology and say what they really mean. There is vast difference between cleaned & harshly cleaned. One is acceptable, the other is not. As to the coin you posted - I see an accurately described coin.
I just learned someting that i always wondered, is it ok to dip the coin. Using the dip from the coin shop.
Wow! While looking at the one you posted, I saw this one... 400093279227 with Star. I thought it was gorgeous, but the one pic gave it away with the cleaning scratches. At least he wasn't trying to hide it. Geesh, the ones with the Star⋆ are BIG $$$ How do those pics come out so exceptional, and then the closeup shows the true coin? I would have thought you could see some of it.
That depends on what dip it is, and if it is used correctly or not. With some dips, 1 or 2 seconds too long and the coin is ruined. Always remember, when you are messing with a coin dip you are messing with an acid.
Also remember that some dipping is acceptable. But if you over-dip a coin, it can affect the coins luster to the point that most of the third party grading companies will no longer grade the coin. They will say the coin has "altered surfaces" or something like that. So yeah, dipping for the most part is market acceptable, unless it is overdone or done incorrectly.
I was looking at the other coins he had on auction, and there's a Franklin that was slabbed, and on the front it says "Genuine" and on the back "Genuine, not gradeable." Is that normal? I guess I need to learn more about slabbing.
PCGS now grades problem coins that are authentic and places them in a slab with the word GENUINE on the label. This is essentially a slabbed bodybagged coin or No Grade coin. The reason for the no grade is indicated on the slab as a two digit number. On the Franklin Half in question, the number is 98. Here are a list of the NO GRADE codes. No Grade Description Printed Description Holdered 82 Filed Rims 83 Peeling Lamination 84 Holed and Plugged 90 Not Genuine 91 Questionable Color 92 Cleaning 93 Planchet Flaw 94 Altered Surfaces 95 Scratch / Rim Dent 97 Environmental Damage 98 Damage 99 PVC Residue I hope this helped.
For those who do not know better - you should never dip a bronze or copper coin, especially if you have any intentions of selling it in the future.
Well I am not sure about dipped or not dipped, for some reason I do not like the way the coin looks. Maybe the lack of luster, but I would skip it.
Yes. Which begs the question - where does one draw the line ? What is unacceptable harsh cleaning ? As with so many things in numismatics, there is no "hard science" law or universally accepted definition. Cleaning is a continuum, a sliding scale. What is acceptable for one is unacceptable to someone else. The key is to learn to evaluate surfaces and luster, then decide on a case-by-case, coin-by-coin basis.
