This conservation went really well. ICG did a great job saving the coin.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ldhair, Jan 19, 2025.

  1. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I bought the coin raw back in 1995 at auction from Bowers and M. as a 63.
    I sent it to PCI shortly after that and it came back at 58. I was happy, it cost me $8 to have it in a nice holder.

    Over the years the coin turned really ugly in the holder along with many other coins with the same history. I'll never understand why just these coins turned into problems.

    Below are images showing the coins history. ICG was able to bring the coin back to life without removing all it's skin. I hope to get all the images in order.

    Image_0987.JPG Image_0988.JPG Image_0994.JPG Image_1001A.JPG IMG_4695.JPG IMG_4696.JPG 58h10c-web.jpg
     
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  3. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Wow, those earlier (?) pics it's like clouds come over and obscure the coin's appearance. They did a great job.

    It's not even toning, it's clearly preventing you from seeing what's underneath.

    Is it the metallic composition ? Maybe the holder ?
     
  4. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

    It’s the PCI holder. The toning from the holders was all over the place.
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    That's a nice result. So far I've used NGC's NCS conservation service twice. Both times on gold. Once for carbon spots on a modern proof gold piece, and the second time for rusty looking deposits on an an ancient gold piece. Both times the result was good and worth the expense.
     
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  6. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    So something on a PCI (what's that stand for, not Paramount Coin, right ?) holder reacts with certain coins ?

    I trust today's holders from the TPGs do not !! :wideyed:
     
  7. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    That looks nice. What kind of witchcraft and sorcery do they use to restore?
     
  8. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

    Some PCI holders toned coins wild colors like these https://www.cointalk.com/threads/toning-in-slabs.409766/

    Others turned out like Larry’s.
     
  9. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    I always just assumed PCI accepted gassed coins and straight graded them. I guess that's a horribly wrong assumption?
     
  10. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    In the early days of PCI, they used a red label for problem coins and green for coins that straight graded.
    Over the years the company changed hands and standards, several times. I did not keep track of all the changes.
     
  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    They will not share that information and for good reason. Each coin may need a different process or they may not wish to even work on a coin. That's the hard part to learn about conservation. Not every coin can be helped.
     
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  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Photo-Certification Coin Institute. Began operations in 1986. It's been through a lot of generations of holders and at least six owners including one that made imitations of an earlier generation of holders from a time when the company had a good representation for accurate grading.

    PCI was one of the early users of Photoslabs. After HALLMARK closed down PCI acquired to right to their "clipped corner" slabs. When PCI went under the first time it, and it's slabs, were purchased by David Lawrence and reborn as Dominion Grading Service. After Dominion closed down it was sold off and reborn as PCI again. This buyer was the one that redid the early PCI holder and later was sued for fraud over misrepresentation of grades. They had to divest themselves of the service and the new owner continued the PCI name.
     
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