Third Party Graders

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by TC2007, Jul 26, 2007.

  1. TC2007

    TC2007 Senior Member

    Just curious, what are the qualifications to become a coin grader at one of the top-tier TPGs? I was just opening a roll of nickels at my desk during a long conference call, finding 2 silver nickels and a 1928 buffalo and I thought to myself, I'd love to do this all day long and get paid for it. How do I sign up? Not that they'd want anyone with 3 months experience!
     
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  3. codydude815

    codydude815 Wannabe coin dealer

    You gotta have a TON of experiance. BUt other than that, move to florida, callifornia, or texas, to be near them, and apply.
     
  4. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    I would think the work would be very tedious after awhile.
     
  5. TC2007

    TC2007 Senior Member

    I think you may be right. I can look at coins all day long if they're mine.
     
  6. CoinGal07

    CoinGal07 Still Collecting

    I heard once that each grader is required to meet a quota ~ i.e., something like .. 400 a day ... which left less than a minute per coin. I'm wondering if anyone has heard this, can confirm or invalidate?
     
  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    In other words, he works 6 hours or less per day?
     
  8. TC2007

    TC2007 Senior Member

    400 a day ... which left less than a minute per coin.


    1 minute per coin.....doesn't really give me a whole lot of comfort. No wonder there isn't a lot of consistency in their opinions.
     
  9. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    I'm guessing it's at least 1 1/2 minutes to 2 per coin. It doesn't sound like much, but seriously, how long does it take to form an opinion on a particular coin? Especially if you're an expert.
     
  10. tjenkins_1983

    tjenkins_1983 Numismaniac

    No kidding. I bought an 1885-P Morgan graded MS64 by NGC, but I'll chew my toenails if it's not a 65. I'm glad I got it though, because I bought the coin, not the holder.
     
  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Experience:
    NGC & PCGS & ANACS: years & years.

    SGS: 27 minutes, including lunch..
     
  12. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Wow! Those "experts" get a short lunch. Guess a longer one would cut into the profits.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Less than 10 seconds for the average coin - usually only 5 or 6 seconds. And no I'm not joking.
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Simple - know how to grade coins accurately based on the company's standards. If you apply for the job they give you a test grading them. How you do on that test determines your pay rate. The best graders make $250,000 and up.
     
  15. CoinGal07

    CoinGal07 Still Collecting

    Based on observation of other professions... that's about average when you consider personal breaks, nature calls, meetings, etc... yeah ... six hours
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Wish I had one of those jobs - I can't get by with less than 12 :( BTW - I think you'd find that most graders work 10 - 12 too.
     
  17. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    It is a good thing you were not working around me. Most of us were working around 600-700 minute. And, if you are getting $250,000, I would hope that you would put in an 8 hour day - at least most of the time. Those getting $15 per, they are the ones who only work 400 minutes a day.
     
  18. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    I believe it.
     
  19. gmarguli

    gmarguli Slightly Evil™

    And the grading company will also train you to their standards. You really only need to be able to grade consistently, as once you can, you can adjust your grades to their standards.

    Most of the graders are ex-dealers.

    Many of the bulk graders are collectors that maybe did a little dealing. There is less need for consistency and knowledge for the bulk graders. You work your way up the coin chain (i.e. start with maybe Silver Eagles, then State Quarters, then Franklins, etc).

    Graders may also work on Saturday to clear a backlog.

    And yes, a couple seconds for each coin is normal. It shouldn't take anyone more than a few seconds to grade a typical coin.
     
  20. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    Man you are slow!
    SGS can do over 36,000 per minute, per grader.
     
  21. grizz

    grizz numismatist

    grading by tpg

    i heard they 'show it' to a computer then BINGO! they got the grade. yes?

    grizz
     
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