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Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Ken Dorney, Aug 18, 2016.

  1. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Not to be one to cry 'The Sky is Falling', but I came across this today that made me think about how fakes and altering coins has advanced over the years. The Agrippa As below I think is a genuine host coin. However, I cant decide if the "F" is just tooled or applied completely. Look at the image and let us know your opinions. Honestly, this is a pretty good 'work', and will certainly fool many people (even some who are experienced).

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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Looks applied, but hard to tell..

    Mine:

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    AGRIPPA (Died 12 B.C.)
    Æ As
    O: M. AGRIPPA. F. COS. III, head left, wearing rostral crown.
    R: Neptune standing left, holding small dolphin and trident; S-C across field.
    Rome mint. Struck under Gaius (Caligula)
    27mm
    9.72g
    RIC I 58 (Gaius); MIR 3, 24-6; BMCRE 161 (Tiberius); Cohen 3
     
  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I'm thinking applied, and it looks too modern - it stands out like a sore thumb.
     
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  5. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    I know most posts turn into 'this is my example', so maybe I'll post mine. I bought this about 1988 for about 70 cents:

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  6. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I'll give you a dollar. :D A nice 30% profit for you. :p
     
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  7. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    I some issues with it. Ken do you think it is pressed with modern dies?
     
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    The "F" looks out of place when comparing to other copies of this coin.
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Mine looks like it has been in a fire...

    RI Agrippa AE As 28mm 11g Neptune-S-C Obv-Rev.jpg
     
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  10. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Mine looks like a P
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  11. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Yeah, I was thinking the same. The whole coin looks weird. My eyes don't like it, but my mind is not specialized enough on Romans to say why.
     
  12. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    I do not like that coin one bit. The hair looks tooled at best, at worst it is a fake.
     
  13. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    When I get home I can check some archives, it just reminds me of a slavey or other Bulgarians that appear every now and then.
     
  14. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Here is mine. A bit of the "F" is off the flan.

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  15. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    The OP definitely looks 'off'...perhaps tooled and that 'F' is out of place---not to mention a bit too modern looking. If it was a tad more worn, especially with the crack etc., I think it could fool more than a few.

    Here's mine....
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  16. noname

    noname Well-Known Member

    Actually, its a 43% profit of 70 cents. a 30% profit of 70 cents is only 21 cents.
     
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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Ah, nice... Someone who understands gm calculations... :)
     
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  18. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I always struggled in math throughout high school and college. I was a C student in math, but had an A average on just about everything else (may have gotten a B in Chemistry...can't remember now), which is why I graduated High School with a 3.989 GPA instead of a 4.0
     
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  19. noname

    noname Well-Known Member

    Didn't mean anything by it, just trying to be a smartypants.:happy:
     
  20. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    The F looks odd, and so does all the hair below the rostral crown. Of course it's much more easy when your attention is attracted. Would be more difficult when pressed at a coin show

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    Agrippa, As Posthumous issue of Caligula, in honour of his grandfather
    Rome mint, ca AD 37/41
    M AGRIPPA L F COS III, head of Agrippa left with rostral crown
    Neptun standing left, holding trident and dolphin. Large S C in fields
    10.9 gr
    Ref : RCV #1812, Cohen #3

    Q
     
  21. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I just checked, and saw your school used a 12.0 grading scale. Yes, sounds like math was tough for you...
    :D
     
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