These PVC Free?

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  1. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

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  3. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I am fairly sure they are not PVC safe. Sniff one to see if the have the "Vinyl Shower curtain" smell. If so, the plasticizer level is high enough to eventually cause PVC damage. If there is basically no smell, they may have lowered levels or are older stock that has vented most of the plasticizer.
     
  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I don't trust anything that doesn't snap, crackle or pop!

    Chris
     
  5. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    If it doesn't specify, it probably isn't.
     
  6. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Well I smelled them and there isnt any smell to it so I guess thats good.

    These are just for junk coins I dont wanna waste coin world slabs on & I dont like air-ties. Plus world coins are odd sized compared to U.S.
     
  7. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    If they're junk coins why use flips.
    Unless I'm mistaked 2x2's are less expensive.
     
  8. Dollar1948

    Dollar1948 New Member

    I dunno, it say vinyl on the packaging..and doesn't yinyl=PVC?
    iI think it says below, vinyl cointains polymer, and polymar is PVC.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl
     
  9. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Yea....and tubes would be even cheaper. My "junk" resides mostly in tubes. Personally, I hate those "flips" since they let far too much air in. The only thing they're good for is sending a coin in for grading. :)
     
  10. hamman88

    hamman88 Spare some change, sir?

    Yeah, vinyl is short for PVC.
     
  11. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Eh it figures. It was only $6. Probably just use them then for coins I sell and so on. Thanks for the replies.
     
  12. Bone Head

    Bone Head Senior Member

    The green death, PVC

    It states on the packaging that they are vinyl flips. That means poly vinyl chloride or PVC. And it does smell like a shower curtain.Some say it's OK to use them for shipping or short term storage. I disagree. Here's why. I think sharp edges as found on some uncirculated and
    more often on proof coin can shave off tiny pieces of the flip when they move around inside. I'm pretty sure this happens with the hard flips because you can see the little pieces and specks of plastic and scratches inside the flip, no? It's not a big problem with inert flips,but these tiniest of pieces, easily overlooked, can cause BIG problems for your prized coins. PVC residue can be removed, or so says NCS (National Conservation Service), that worked with NGC untill recently when NGC bought them out. But the damaged to the coins surface cannot be repaired. And if the cleaning (oops, I mean conservation) is improperly or incompletely done the PVC will grow back and destroy whats left of your coin. The green death is real and it is caused by PVC. This we know. So why gamble? I'm not sure but I suspect that coins in paper envelopes stored in vinyl flips are also in danger from the vapors. (can you smell it?) .... Thanks MAT for a good question on an important and too often overlooked topic.. .. my opinion, I welcome further discussion.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Mat - do you store your junk coins in the same place that you store your good coins ? If you do, those flips can do just as much damage to your good coins as if the good coins were in those flips.

    When the plasicizer in the PVC flips breaks down it turns into a gas. And if those flips are in a box, a safe or any enclosed container, then every coin that is in that container will be affected by that gas. So the flip does not even have to be touching a coin to damage that coin. It merely has to be in the same space.
     
  14. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Vinyl = PVC as far as your coins are concerned.
     
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