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1795 10$ 13 leaves -RARE-

Looking for opinions on value from what I could expect to get from a dealer and also through an auction on this rare specimen (population of 200 or less). This is a 1795 PCGS certified 13 leaves with .94 for the detail number, suggesting possible surface alteration of some sort. It features XF-XF+ details. I recently saw a PCGS certified 13 leaves with cleaning damage in beautiful AU details condition sell for about 58,000$ through heritage, hoping this one is worth a little under half that.

 

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Holy smokes, what a rare and beautiful coin! I'm not sure the price on something like that, but a light cleaning won't deter from a nice valuation.

 

Greetings fish and welcome to Cointalk. Beautiful coin you have there! I don't know much about early american gold but I'm sure someone will be able to help you. Based on what you have stated I think you are correct about expecting half value, but with something as rare as this it could bring more. Could you post pictures of the entire slab so we can see the PCGS designation. To my the coin almost looks like it is a proof strike but that may just be a characteristic of early gold pieces since they didn't make many.

Thanks for sharing!
J

 

Here is a set of beautiful gold coins from 1795.

The first is a 1795 NCG 5$ small eagle, unfortunately this one is classified as XF details- damaged due to heavy cleaning, still a rare coin nonetheless.

The second is a 1795 10$ PCGS certified 13 leaves with code .94- suggesting possible surface alteration of some sort. It's details are XF+ in my opinion.

Pictures are worth a thousand words... please let me know your thoughts on condition etc and current market value.

 

Heres the 13 leaves 10$

 

Thanks for the quick replies! I had opted to crop the pictures to size to exclude the coin holders due to privacy concerns. I can, however, give you a bit more information. The first string of numbers is 8551.94, designating it as a 10$ 13 leaves and the .94 designating surface alteration as the possible reason for not having a real grade. Here is a picture from the back of the container aswell

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Those coins are stunning! What really blows my mind is this: I am a Washington junkie. He is my favorite founding father, and president. He was still ALIVE when these coins were struck. He was still PRESIDENT!! For all we know, he could have HELD those coins. *faint*

 

It really is quite the mind trip to think of the history behind these coins, I fully agree... if only they could talk.

 

Holy smokes! Are those yours?

 

They're awesome coins. Do you own them or are you thinking about purchasing them? These are the first of their kind I've ever seen posted here and I've been here since 2008. There may be somebody here that's qualified to give an opinion on grade and value, but this is about equivalent to bringing a Ferrari to a GM dealer.

They already appear to be slabbed so I'd look them up at ha.com and see what their grade equivalents have historically sold for. Really nice.

Edit: FWIW, NGC values the $5 in undamaged XF condition at $34k. The $10 in undamaged XF condition is listed at $55k. With a details grade on something like these, the price could fall anywhere. They're first issues!

 

i give you this for that:devil:

 

Beautiful!

 

Yeah absolutely amazing coins! Imagine the stories they could tell, probably held by the wealthiest of the wealthy at the time, presidents etc. Like Kanderus said, President Washington could have held those at one point!

I mean what value did those hold when they were minted? $10 could have been a years salary, I did some searching on the web but didn't find much, anyone know?

 

Awesome coins: I love the designs on those.

Here are some auctions for some details coins:
$10:
http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1167&lotNo=4847
http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1151&lotNo=5166
$5:
http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1159&lotNo=4287
http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1158&lotNo=5504


Looks like $40-50000 for the pair.

Just by the pics, it looks like the $5 is BD-3 which is an R-3+ and extimated 175-225 known.
Looks like the $10 is BD-1, which is also an R-3+ and estimated 225-325 known.
These are not guarenteed attributions but from the pictures and my copy of Early US Gold Coin Varieties by Dannreuther and Bass, Jr, they match pretty well.

 

Thanks for the replies, they truly are beautiful. edited

As for the value when the coin was originally minted... a senator in those days made about 6$ a day, now they make 160k~ a year, if you do some basic math (assuming the same ratios) the 10$ face value coin would have cost about 1100ish~ in todays money.

 

Wow, I would have thought that you might have an idea of value with such stunning coins? Very nice.

 

Just a suggestion, but if you are considering selling those coins you might want to explore Heritage Auctions. It would be a lot safer selling them that way, than traveling around the country dealing with unknown buyers.

 

Excuse me sir, can we see the pictures with the slabs included?

 

I understand your questioning, but I did have a fairly good idea of the market value. I was just curious as to how much the damage could/would affect the value in this situation, as it is hard to find any concrete examples when dealing with such a rare coin. As to the coins origin, I came across these locally and the sale would include documents showing the legality of ownership.

I had posted earlier in another thread that I did not want to post pictures of the serial numbers from the slabs for my own privacy concerns. edited

I realize heritage is the best overall selling platform. I feel casting other nets might better suit my needs after dealing with waiting for an upcoming auction, and suffering from auction fees- my needs being needing funds sooner than later. I will be contacting several dealers over the next few weeks, I'll keep you guys posted on what happens.

 

But the rarest gold coin is the 1849 $20, hands down, the most valuable U.S. coin.