Nope both look normal to me the first one is really bad not worth much of anything !! first i usually don't even graded holed coins !! second one would get f details i believe !!
Not sure on die variety the first is a holy half worth silver melt second I'd call vg possibly details due to the scrapes not sure how sever they are in hand the first 2 were nicer but as a whole you got some nice halts and you can never go wrong with multiple nice busts
1831 looks like an o-116. M above right base of A left side of shield looks like a broad double line. Star 8 1 mm from cap and s13 1/2 mm from curl.
The 1836 is a pain to Overton. Possibly the O-122. stem & C align, as well as the I T relationship. Plus the 6 is higher than the 183. R-2 RLM: You ask: No one know Overton numbers any more? Sure, but esp for some dates it takes a lot of time.
Hey Frank if I blow it up it looks like the left side of I lines up with the right side of the T. Or that is how it looks to me - maybe my eyes need adjusting.
In my 4th edition by Parsley for the 122 it says I is centered under right side of T. So that is why I skipped 122. But if I use a magnifying glass on the picture it sure looks like left side of I lines up with right side of T. So I guess the overton book could be wrong.