The Official CoinTalk Grading Experiment 11

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by physics-fan3.14, Sep 28, 2019.

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What does the Coin grade?

  1. AU-55

  2. AU-58

  3. MS-60

  4. MS-61

  5. MS-62

  6. MS-63

  7. MS-64

  8. MS-65

  9. MS-66

  10. MS-67

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  1. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    How good is CoinTalk compared to the TPGs? Let's find out! Over the next several months, I'll be posting a continuous stream of Guess the Grade threads. I will be using photos from the Heritage auction archives (please do not cheat!).

    All you have to do is guess the grade! I will be attaching a poll to each thread. Please select the grade that you think best represents the coin (to avoid bias, please select your grade before viewing the rest of the thread).

    Also feel free to post your opinions about the coin, and it would be most educational if you could explain why you chose the grade you did.

    In order to give everyone time to respond, I'll reveal the grade Monday evening

    Around Christmas, I will tally up the results and see how we did. This thread is an offshoot of a recent thread where I compared CT grading to the TPG, seen here: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/how-good-is-cointalk-at-grading.343417/

    We're going to cover a wide range of material, and some of it may be out of your wheelhouse. However, if you are a confident grader, you should be able to accurately grade almost any coin.

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  3. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    Will you be adding a poll ??? Some may like to guess incognito. (w/o replying).
     
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  4. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Coupled with the good luster and strike, and the marks of a 63, the lack of originality tells me it's a MS62.
     
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  5. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

  6. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    Okay then.
    Obverse is well struck, with some scuffs. The reverse was struck with worn dies, and is scuffed.
    Overall-MS63.
    It's so clean, that it's dangerously close to a details grade. IMO.
     
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  7. Penna_Boy

    Penna_Boy Just a nobody from the past

  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    @physics-fan3.14

    Whatever caused it, the poll is not there. I'd suggest you simply start another thread and I'll get rid of this one. That would be the simplest solution by far.
     
  9. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Blast white indicating a dipping and very baggy for a dime, the obverse luster looks great but the reverse looks terrible. I can't tell if the reverse maybe has semi-PL surfaces or not but it seems totally different than the obverse. Marks hurt minor coinage more than larger coins.

    I say MS62.


    BTW, where is the poll?
     
  10. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Oh no!

    Alright, redo created.

    Thanks.
     
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  11. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Both threads merged . . . posters to first thread can now vote.
     
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  12. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I went with 64
    ...the marks/hits, especially on the cheek might have taken the grade down even further based on this being a smaller coin, but somehow I don't think it was penalized down to low MS (60-62). A 63 would not surprise me either.
     
  13. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    63. Been dipped, but acceptable to the TPG's.
     
  14. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    64 from me.
     
  15. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    I voted 64. Definitely dipped blast white with some minor marks. 63 with these large pictures but prolly looks more 64 in hand.
     
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  16. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    64 for me as well, tiny coin, tiny tick marks, but I think the one on the cheek keeps it from 65. as always luster is tough to judge but looks ok to me.
     
  17. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    I have to scale my thoughts down to dime size. The obverse luster is good, but the reverse doesn't look good for some reason. Could be the Heritage pic, I guess. The cavernous old NGC inserts tend to bury small coins a bit. Marks on the obverse don't look good if I blow this up, but it's a dime. The reverse looks fairly clean. Strike is full. Eye appeal is meh. Being dipped blast white probably didn't help it unless whatever toning it had was ugly. Torn between 63 and 64. I'll go with 64, but it's not a coin I would jump at buying.
     
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  18. Casman

    Casman Well-Known Member

  19. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    When trying these grading exercises, I frequently run afoul of the conflict between, "do I like this coin," and "what grade do I think a completely disengaged 3d party expert grader would assign to it?"
     
  20. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Good luster, LOTS of chatter. The bright white suggests it has been dipped. 63. No higher. 62 is entirely possible.
     
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  21. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    I'll say MS63 based on the generation of the plastic..
     
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