The Most Ridiculous Claudius II Gothicus

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Ancientnoob, Nov 16, 2015.

  1. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I picked this up off the 'bay from a seller in Germany. It is what appears to be a unique example of a Claudius II Gothicus Ant (AD 268 - 270) counter marked by the Ostrogoths. ( AD 520-530) at a value of 7 nummi.

    I had a good time photographing the coin and trying to capture Claudius' bust. When I first saw the coin in hand I thought to my self, "I can't wait to see @ValiantKnight 's face when he sees this!"

    I am a little shaky on the host coin type but I think I have a match. Opinions are welcome.

    Host Coin:
    Italy
    Roman Empire
    Claudius II Gothicus
    AE Ant. 16 mm x 2.10 grams (s. AD 269)
    Obverse: MP CLAVDIVS AVG, Radiate head right
    Reverse FIDES MILITVM, Fides standing facing, head left, holding spear or sceptre in left hand and standard in right hand, epsilon in right field.
    Note: Counter marked VII by Ostrogoths (AD 520-530)
    VII3.jpg
     
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  3. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    It would be nice if it were marked by Ostrogoths. Are you sure it was not marked by vandals (with a small V)?
     
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  4. harris498

    harris498 Accumulator

    What do I know about Ancients, but it certainly looks like 'VII' to me.
     
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  5. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Could be but it happened a very long time ago.
     
  6. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    @Valentinian thinking about this you could be very right but my imperial As marked is marked XLII, 42 and weights about 12 grams, if this is 2 grams it would make sense if the value was VII 7, if the same authority was marking based on weight.
    DomitianOstroAs.jpg
     
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  7. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    VK is going to drool!

    :woot:
     
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  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Well... whatever the case, it does look like the marks were made long ago.
     
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  9. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    The oldest evidence of an advertisement for 7up in History !

    Nice find BTW whoever counterstamped it

    Q
     
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  10. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Is someone debating who stamped this? I hear alot of "whoever stamped it." Did @Valentinian poison my thread? Casting some doubt on my coin.:confused: There is some logic behind the attribution. :joyful:

    I would love to see what @dougsmit thinks I figure he would be interested in very interesting Roman coins, maybe I am wrong?:bookworm:
     
  11. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    I can only talk for myself, but wrote "whoever" because I really don't know who, not because of any doubt ;)

    Q
     
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  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I Like the connection to the 'barbarians' who then dominated Italy and most of what was the western Roman Empire....

    I hope someone can nail down the precise 'attributes' for you; historically, things like this always intrigue me.
     
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  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The fact that the 7 and 42 are proportional to the coin weights make me tend to accept the theory and this coin. I find it interesting that the double 42 items are 83 not 84 (and rare). I would love to have one.
     
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