The Issue About Issues

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by David Atherton, Oct 4, 2017.

  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    When collecting Domitian denarii, some issues are more highly prized than others. Recently I was able to obtain a denarius from one Domitian's most elusive issues.

    D450sm.jpg Domitian
    AR Denarius, 3.38g
    Rome mint, 86 AD
    RIC 450 (R2), BMC - , RSC -
    Obv: IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM P M TR P VI; Head of Domitian, laureate, bearded, r.
    Rev: IMP XIII COS XII CENS P P P; Minerva adv. r., with spear and shield (M1)
    Acquired from Numismeo, September 2017.

    In 86 Domitian was awarded imperial acclamations at an accelerated pace due to the Dacian War, which resulted in some fairly rare denarius issues. This coin is from the extremely rare fourth issue of 86, probably struck for just a few days or so until word of the next imperial acclamation reached the mint. The Minerva fighting (M1) and Minerva on rostral column (M2) are the only two denarius types known for the issue. The coins are so rare that Mattingly even doubted the issues existence (BMCRE p. 320 note).
     
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  3. slim shady

    slim shady New Member

    Wow, that's nice!

    Man, I hate being shallow, but I love the glitzy finish on the obverse!
     
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  4. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    To be honest, I'm not quite sure what the patina is. It appears to be some kind of yellowish-orange resin, more amber-like in the lower right. The coin came with an old ticket, so presumably it sat in someone's trays 'heads up' for sometime.
     
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  5. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Very nice!
     
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I love the color as well. Shallow? Perhaps. But it is a lovely coin.
     
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  7. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I love it!! The combination of rarity and appearance make it one I would've gone after!
     
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  8. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Great coin. Really like the toning.
     
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  9. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    What a fantastic coin. I really love the obverse, and the rarity makes an already wonderful coin even better.

    Sadly I only have the more common issue from the year 87 CE. However, she does have really beautiful dark toning.

    Domitian Minerva denarius.jpg
    Domitian
    AR Denarius 19mm. 3.10g. Rome Mint 87 A.D.
    Laureate head, r.
    IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM P M TR P VII
    Minerva advancing r., brandishing javelin and holding shield on prow of ship, eagle at feet.
    IMP XIIII COS XIII CENS P P P
    RIC II 92; RSC II 218
     
  10. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    An awesome coin
     
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  11. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Another great addition to your collection.
     
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  12. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Nothing 'common' about the portrait! That issue really had some top-notch engravers.

    BTW, it is new RIC 518.
     
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  13. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    Great looking coin.
    Interesting on the obverse. What it glued to something as part of a display? Seems I remember something about people putting a resin coat on coins (does that ring a bell to anyone?). But why would it just be on one side if that's the case?
     
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  14. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Are you sure the yellow isn't horn silver?
     
  15. dlhill132

    dlhill132 Member

    David, another super cool coin, congrats.

    ~Doug
     
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  16. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    No, it isn't horn silver. For all intents and purposes it looks more like some sort of resin.

    Here is a larger photo. Click

    D450a.jpg

    Looking at the coin with my 10x loupe, the 'resin' looks like it is just on the surface and is clear, darker where it is thicker. Whatever it is, the piece certainly has an unusual appearance!
     
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  17. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    OK, phew! I figured you would have ruled that out, but the downside was bad enough that I thought I should mention the possibility.

    I think I'd be of two minds about removing it. It does give the coin a unique look, but on the other hand it doesn't look so great under magnification.
     
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