The double-antoniniani/aureliani of Tacitus

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  1. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    The double-antoniniani/aureliani of Tacitus is a denomination made of billon with twice the silver content than the usual post-reform antoniniani/aureliani, marked with either XI for Antioch (or IA for Tripolis) meaning 10 units copper to 1 unit silver instead of the usual XXI (or KA) meaning 20 units copper to 1 unit silver.
    These coins are quite rare and interesting.
    One example is this:


    TACITUS AE22mm 3.85g Double Antoniniani/Aureliani (VF, desert patina)

    AV: IMP C M CL TACITVS AVG; radiate, cuirassed and draped with paludamentum bust r.

    REV: CLEMENTIA TEMP; Emperor in military dress stg. r., holding short eagle-tipped sceptre in l. hand, receiving a globe from Jupiter stg. l., holding long sceptre in l. hand. S in middle field.

    EXE: XI

    REF: BNC p.437, RIC V-1 211, RIC Online #4093 rare coin, 3 specimens recorded by S. Estiot 2 others known but not recorded, 3rd issue at Antioch mint January-June 276AD.
    tacitus xi.JPG

     
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  3. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I've never come across one, but I haven't looked that hard. Yours is quite attractive, but is it possible there's another X in front of the first?
     
  4. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    No, you can see by the position of the XI in the center of the exergue and also by the soft deposits that make the patina in front of the first X.
     
  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    My two. Valentinian has sold a couple of these in the past on his sales pages. I really want an IA one but am not willing to pay extra. There are way too many dealers who would not know the difference.
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  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Well, this is something else I wasn't really aware of...and that is a terrific coin without being scarce and rare.

    My sole example is a Bronze-silvered Antoninianus with the 'Restitutor Orbis' reverse, and of course, the XXI values....
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  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for one of these. Until then, here is one of the common XXI's:
    Tacitus I 2.jpg
    TACITUS
    Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: IMP C M CL TACITVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: CLEMENTIA TEMP, Tacitus receiving globe from Jupiter, Z in lower centre, XXI in ex.
    Struck at Antioch, 275-6 AD
    3.2g, 22mm
    RIC 210, Z
     
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  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm, Tacitus? ...

    => sure, okay ...


    Tacitus AE Tetradrachm
    Egypt, Alexandria
    Date: 275-276 AD
    Diameter: 20.9 mm
    Weight: 9.0 grams
    Obverse: Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Tacitus
    Reverse: Elpis holding flower and raising skirt
    Reference: Emmett 3975

    Tacitus Alexandria TET a.jpg Tacitus Alexandria TET b.jpg
     
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  9. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice catch, I would like one of these XI coins too.

    My only Tacitus

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  10. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    That coin is in excellent condition, Seth. My XI from Antioch is one of those sold by Warren after its participation in his paper The Alloy of the 'XI' Coins of Tacitus. You can see a little square behind the bust where the surface was scraped to prepare it for the Rutherford backscattering analysis it was subjected to.

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  11. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    You have all showed marvelous coins. Although his reign was rather short, Tacitus minted many great coins.
    Zumbly, which entry is your coin from mr. Esty's study?
     
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  12. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    92.39
     
  13. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    This is spec. 92.3 from mr. Esty's article, the only Tripolis minted coin from the selection that was studied. According to the results, the silver in the alloy was at 3.06% at core and 19.58% at surface.
    These Tripolis pieces with IA value mark appear to be even scarcer than the Antioch XI mark.
    tacitus 2aureliani.JPG


    And while we're at Tacitus, this apparently unique variation of officina mark for this Antoninianus - the retrograde Z - is in the process of being added to RIC Temp site. Coin is 4.05g and 22mm, from Israel.
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  14. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Great, informative thread. Thanks to Seth and everyone.
     
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  15. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Here are my doubles...

    Delta and H.
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  16. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Thank you for adding these. It seems there are more of them out there than I thought :)
     
  17. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I think that there are a few of us out there who keep our eyes open for these appearing under the radar with dealers. They do not appear that often.
     
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