The 1877 IHC

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  1. acanthite

    acanthite ALIIS DIVES

    I understand that the 1877 Indian Head Cent often (always?) has a particularily weak strike on the southeast corner of the N in ONE. This does not seem to be a characteristic of dates prior or post 1877, or perhaps I just haven't looked at enough to see a pattern of occurrence.

    Is is possible to use the absence of a weak strike as evidence of counterfeiting? Or are there 'normal' 1877's that would invalidate such a red flag. Thanks in advance for any input.
     
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  3. 09S-V.D.B

    09S-V.D.B Coin Hoarder

    Originally the Shallow N was used on copper-nickel cents, and was not needed after the switch to bronze. The 'Bold N' was created in 1870, and most 1870's have a bold N. In 1871 and 1872, most coins were 'Bold N's - in fact, coins with very shallow N's command large premiums.
    For circulation strikes:
    All 1877's were struck with the same reverse die, so they all have the 'Shallow N.' To answer your question, yes, it is absolutely possible to authenticate a coin based upon whether it has a Shallow N or a Bold N - all Bold N's are fake.
    For proofs:
    On the other hand, all proofs were struck with a Bold N, so any proof 1877 with a Shallow N is fake.
     
  4. acanthite

    acanthite ALIIS DIVES

    Thanks again, 09S-V.D.B. That was a great explanation.
     
  5. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    I should mention that people fake the shallow N on the 1877's. They recut the date, tool down the reverse to simulate a weak strike,then clean the coin to hide the evidence of tooling, and then retone the coin. It can be quite deceptive.
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Thanks, 09SVDB:
    That was a great, and clear answer.
    More than I knew before reading.
    Frank
     
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