Syracuse Agathokles Litra

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by KurtS, Dec 31, 2014.

  1. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    I've been away from CoinTalk for a while. This is a new picture of one of my favorite coins. I really like the patina on this one! :)

    I shot this using a macro stand and focus stacking to capture the full details of the coin. I'll post an article sometime soon on the technique I use.

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    Agathokles, circa 295 BC. Head of Artemis right, quiver over shoulder. Reverse, Winged thunderbolt, AGAQOKLEOS above, BASILEOS (king) below, 24mm 9.58 gr
     
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  3. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    By all means I want to see that stand you're talking about.
     
  4. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    oh wow, that's a fantastic coin! welcome back KS!
     
  5. RaceBannon

    RaceBannon Member

    Welcome back! Nice coin and a nice photo.
     
  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Please include illustrations of the need for focus stacking on a coin of relatively low relief shot flat. It is a great tool for angled perspective but I have not noted the need with flat angles.
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  7. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Wow, you guys get up early in the morning. As it is, I haven't been to sleep yet, rough night I guess.

    I'm having a hard enough time shooting them flat, let alone at an angle like that.
     
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Hey Kurt, nice coin and nice images. I too will be looking forward to your photo techniques. (Glad to have you here man. I've missed ya).
     
  9. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    Thanks everyone for your welcomes! :D

    Nice shots Doug! Yes, I mostly use this method to capture details on higher-relief coins, including thicker rims. But I also developed a method for lighting coins that involves shooting lower-relief coins at an angle, using focus-stacking, to capture all the data. The result captures maximum details and controls the tonal range quite well. I mostly use this technique on modern coins; I'll post another article sometime. :)
     
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  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Am I understand correctly that you are not changing focus but changing light direction and using the software to combine the areas with greatest detail? I tried that only once but decided the results were not 'real' looking and a lot of work. Perhaps I should try it with different coins before writing it off. The middle lower image here is the sum of the other five.
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  11. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Beat it, Story ... I've seen enough!!

    ;)

    ... just jokes ...

    => Back to the Future, DVCollector!!
     
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  12. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It's a wonderful coin! Thank you for sharing it.
     
  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hey, De Niro ... here is my version of your Syracuse-thunderbolt coin ...

    => Onk-Onk!!


    Sicily, Syracuse Æ Hemidrachm
    Timoleon and the Third Democracy
    (30 Onkia)

    344-317 BC
    Timoleontic Symmachy coinage. 1st series, circa 344-339/8 BC
    Diameter: 24 mm
    Weight: 16.94 grams
    Obverse: Laureate head of Zeus Eleutherios right
    Reverse: Upright thunderbolt; to right, eagle standing right
    From the Robert and Julius Diez Collection, Ex Gustav Philipsen Collection (Part I, J. Hirsch XV, 28 May 1906), lot 1227


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  14. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    What I'm striving for in my method is a lighting effect similar to axial lighting, but instead of putting an optical beamsplitter between the coin and camera, I angle the coin perpendicular to the light source, with the lens off-axis to the coin. This produces a similar lighting effect to axial, and really manages the tonal range well. Since the coin is angled to the lens, I use focus-stacking to capture all the details using multiple focus steps combined with a program--Helicon Focus. I then do some final correction in photoshop. It's an involved process, but it goes pretty quickly once it's familiar.

    The OP coin was shot using this technique, but it's easier to see the effect on a modern, high grade coin. Below is an example where this technique is really advantageous. In hand, this is a very bright silver coin, but I prefer stressing details over bright reflections. My technique achieves well what I'm after. It's hard to describe without a full demo; I'll write an article about it sometime soon. :)

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  15. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    Wow--great coin and details Steve!
     
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  16. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Good looking coin and interesting photo technique. Its makes my photo method sound ancient. :D
     
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  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Yah, I totally agree ....

    => here is my stevex6 version of Lucasfilm Studio

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    .... oh, and the exercise-bike is hooked-up to the computer (but no, I do not generate my own power!!)

    ;)

    ... and "yes" that is a bottle of wine in the background!! (tools of the trade)
     
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  18. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Ah man, you just busted my bubble. I was sure you pedaled your own power kinda like the Flintstones.
     
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  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Yah, my friend ... I admit that I was torn!!

    ... Lordy, I really loved my Mom ... oh, and she had some great ideas, but when push came to shove I bailed and went with electricity ...

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    ... I love ya Mom (please don't judge me)
     
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  20. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    slacker. :D
     
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  21. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Great coin.

    I need photo shop :dead: and a computer that can handle it too:dead::dead::dead::dead: I use MS digital image for minor editing. I have a simple set up.



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