Swallowing my pride: Help with Severan, provincial AE

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by iamtiberius, May 7, 2017.

  1. I've come to a point where I have not been able to attribute one of my own.

    What I know:
    - Obv Legend: AVT K M AVP ANTΩNEINOC (pretty common)
    - Reverse depicts Nike advancing left with wreath.

    What I think:
    - I think we're looking at an older, bearded Geta. The bust seems too light hearted to be the scowling, bitter man, that was Caracalla.

    - Due to style, I'm leaning toward a Serdica or Nikopolis mint.


    Larger than normal image size; in the event anyone needs the resolution to zoom in.
    Severan AE.jpg
    17.61g
    30.2mm

    *I randomly came across this in my collection and have no recollection of purchasing it. haha

    -Michael
     
    Last edited: May 7, 2017
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  3. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    I can read Pautalias on the reverse; start studying Pautalia (Thrace) on Wildwinds.
     
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  4. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    It is Caracalla, naturally; It is not P. Septimius Geta that's spelled out on the reverse.
     
  5. Thanks; so reverse legend is probably OVΛΠIAC ΠAVTAΛIAC? I can see the "IAC" in "OVΛΠIAC." Still looking for a similar example.
     
  6. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Yes, OVΛΠIAC ΠAVTAΛIAC, meaning "of Ulpia Pautalia". It suggests that the city was founded by Trajan, a members of the important Roman gens Ulpia. Or by Hadrian, whose grandmother was a member of that gens, at the same time honoring his adoptive father Trajan. A row of important Ulpians may be seen in the Wikipedia article, the last being the rare usurpator Ulpius Cornelius Laelianus.
     
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  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

  8. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That is specifically Ruzicka p. 150, 579-581; Moushmov 4244. I have photographed the listing in Ruzicka for you. It notes three different reverse dies, distinguished by the breaks in the inscription. He notes two obverse dies, one with a beard (580) and one without a beard (579 and 581).

    Your obverse is 580; your reverse is 581.

    Caracalla Ruzicka listing.jpg

    It reads 581 (29 mm; 14.97 g). AVT K M AVP | ANTΩNEINOC, laureate head (beardless), r. OVΛΠIAC | Π | A | VTAΛIAC, Nike advancing left, with outspread wings, holding wreath with ribbons in the raised right hand and shouldering a palm branch with the left arm.

    It cites one example in the Berlin museum and 2 in the Sofia museum and notes it is Moushmov p. 239, no. 4244.
     
  9. AVT K M AVP ANTΩNEINOC OVΛΠIAC ΠAVTAΛIAC
    Thank you. What I was looking for and more.
     
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  10. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    i've found pride always taste better than crow:)
     
  11. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    I have found that eating crow every so often is not such a bad thing -- I do it quite often -- it helps build character and improves one's disposition!:happy:
     
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  12. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    lol, well then one day we should all have dinner together:)
     
  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I eat crow often enough, but I'm not so sure about it improving my disposition.
     
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