Strike through on a dropped device??

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  1. DysfunctionalVeteran

    DysfunctionalVeteran Oddly enough

    Seller is claiming its a dropped device while the slab says strike through.
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  3. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    A dropped device, by nature, would (at least partially) fill the devices on the die it was struck into....

    There are aspects of this anomaly which resemble a "dropped wreath leaf set." How that could then be struck into a planchet while the O and N remain whole and original escapes me. A thin delamination might do that if struck through.
     
  4. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    That is a very cool error. You seem to find some really intriguing stuff.
     
  5. DysfunctionalVeteran

    DysfunctionalVeteran Oddly enough

    Thank you. Once i get everything all slabbed ill send them on over for better imaging.

    This was a unique looking coin and boss lady said yes. Who am I to argue??

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  6. DysfunctionalVeteran

    DysfunctionalVeteran Oddly enough

    Luckily she didnt cost nearly that amount.
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    The reverse is much prettier.
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  7. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I really like it. Honestly if I came across it in the wild, it would be one that would stay in my collection. :)
     
  8. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Very nice! She's a keeper!
     
  9. DysfunctionalVeteran

    DysfunctionalVeteran Oddly enough

    In all the years Ive been looking at coins I havent seen another like it.
    Ive seen dropped letters and numbers but I havent seen a dropped device with letters on top of it. TBH, I think the seller could have gotten a whole lot more in a highly advertised auction, well above the $1000 mark.

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  10. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Sorry, can one of you articulate in laymen terms what a dropped device is? Or is there a definition somewhere? I'm trying to visualize what's happening with that die strike.
     
  11. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    Sorry, couldn't resist Tom...

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  12. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    You know what a grease filled die right? Well imagine that grease has now become hardened and falls out of the device between strikes. That hardened piece of debris is like a cut out and retains it's shape. That piece of debris is then struck into the planchet creating a impression rather than a raised image of the host device. At least that's what I think it is.
     
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  13. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Yes, got it! I can visualize that. That makes sense. Thanks Justin.
     
  14. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    That's it. They can appear "normal" or mirror-image if they happen to rotate before being struck through.
     
  15. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    WOW. That is a dropped element. Its a wreath leaf cluster and part of the Olive leaves. Holy smokes!
     
  16. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Then why didn't it fill the devices on the die?
     
  17. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Well it did somewhat on the N leg, upper right quadrant of the O and above leaf cluster. I'm guessing the grease was thin and somewhat viscous or not as compacted in some parts and spread into most of the devices during the strike.
     
  18. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Then how was it strong enough to create a sharp outline at its' thinnest part? C'mon, man. This doesn't pass the smell test.
     
  19. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Because that's on the flat field maybe? Its either a dropped letter or detached lamination strikethrough of partial Olive leaves and the cluster to the left of the Olive leaves and the overall look of the strikethrough is more like grease rather than metal to me. Either way it's killer
     
  20. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Agreed, killer. I lean towards "struck thru a delamination." You can envision a ready-to-delam planchet being snipped off nicely by the edges of the devices when struck, and since this is the anvil die gravity would tend to help keep it there for the nest strike. Being thin, the next strike just punched planchet metal right through it to fill the letters, but field-to-field it was enough to create a strikethrough.
     
  21. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Thunderdome time :)
     
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