Strike through cloth or staining on 1978 LMC

Hi,

I think the weak features indicate it was struck through cloth.
What do you think?

 

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No.. That's the mark of old tape that one was across the face of the Cent.

 

It's funny how the coin would wear but the residue from tape would remain?

 

Could of been tape that was put on after it was worn.. It's a 41 year old coin

Some people tape coins to coin folders to hold them in place. I have seen this done many times.

 

In addition to poor features there appears to be some streaking that correlates with the lines.

 

If it was struck through a cloth, wouldn't you expect ALL the details to be weak?

The lines are staining.

Here is a good site that is worth book marking.
http://www.error-ref.com/

This is a struck through cloth error (pic from Sullivan Numismatics)

 

Hey,
I just found one for sure! Its weak but you can see the criss cross pattern that leaves poc marks all over Lincoln's bust.
I dont know what the 1st one is but I can feel the ridges. You can see the ridges. It's not cloth though...

 

No.. I don't think so.. Seems more like a plating issue.

 

+1

 

It's a pattern. If plating it would be random. No? It's too easy just to dismiss everything post 1982 as zinc issues.
I just read that cloth leaves a criss-cross pattern. ...although, this is weak.
I just found another with a pattern. Someone else must have been collecting "interesting" pennies and decided to roll them and take to the bank for whatever reason. This cannot be coincidence?

 

you need to start looking at a bunch more zincolns .. and you'll start seeing that there's a plethora of plating problems that look like patterns. That's because you want to make sense of it and attribute it to something, thus is your bias towards wanting it to be an error vs not.

Did you not look at @Oldhoopster example? Look at the total obliteration of the lower half of the cent.

When the press "strikes through" something it is unable to then stamp "detail" as there's an object between the die and the planchet. When you think about this more you'll be able to determine surface irregularities vs when something was struck through.

if you google "struck through cloth coin examples" you'll see plenty of examples to familiarize yourself with the outcome. Just remember, not everything is the exact same problem thus there are variables and slightly different outcomes.

 

That one is from a fingerprint, as the last one is most likely.
There is a big difference between what you have shown and what oldhoopster has shown.

 

That second picture looks like someone's fingerprint zink cents love fingerprints touch a brand new one and you will see the fingerprint right away leave it for a few days and it will be there forever

 

Nope.. None are errors.

 

Found another one. Cloth is weak but something got stamped across Abe's face.

 

Dude.. None of your coins are struck through cloth..

 

I know what it looks like but you have to look at all the dark spots all over that result from a criss-cross pattern. If you observe where I circled the "dots" are actually pressed "under" the lapel of Lincolns suit coat.
That can only happen at the mint.
The last one has a faint criss-cross and something left an impression on Lincolns face. Probably some debris on the cloth, which, by the way, is visible in places on the other coins.

 

You've seemed to have attached onto a word "cloth" for some reason.

If I hit a coin with a hammer it would appear as if "something got stamped" on it.
How do you determine if it was done at the mint or afterwards ?
how would you determine if it's a cloth, or a die chips, or something else altogether?

 

This pic shows where the cloth was pressed into the design.

 

I'm done with this thread..