Ok but i did notice that there was an issue! How cool. But amazing how both DDD look so different. Trying to wrangle my head around the processes of DDD that creates 2 totally different end results. Whew. This is hard lol thanks for the help. But this would be another example of DDD cause i can see it on both sides of the number?
Everything looks cool in their own way when magnified enough. That last picture is so magnified, I can smell it. Magnify it even more and we might even find a lost civilization.
I have an auto immune disorder that causes major eye issues for me. Sorry if i have to use instruments that you dont approve of. Maybe you should be more forthcoming with your warm wishes. I am bathing in the positivity you are blasting my way.
And the fact that you took all the time to sit there and say what you said but yet you still didn't want to answer the question The question was I'm seeing whatever on both sides does that mean that it's the DDD the Patty man was talking about I'm trying to learn how to recognize it I do know this though I sure enough can recognize a person that's not nice. Too bad you can't recognize when you need to be quiet on a subject.
DDD can occur in many guises simply because of what causes it. The sharp, incused edges of the design on a new die will produce sharp, clear devices on the struck coin. As the die usage progresses, these sharp edges become dulled, clearly seen on the struck coins, a while later they spread and die chips occur because of the constant pounding of the dies against metal discs only slightly softer than themselves. The outer devices start spreading toward the rims and both sides of the devise spreads, and evidence of a ridge ring becomes evident.
Correct. When DDD is present, you usually see what is typically referred to as 'die wash'. When coining material, the tools (the anvil/hammer dies) start to fatigue with us. You see coins that come from the same die set start to appear different. These are called die stages, typically referred to as Early, Mid, Late, Very Late (EDS, MDS, LDS, VLDS). When a die set hits LDS, VLDS, the devices start to look smooshed...the fields will show material movement in swirls and striations. DDD usually happens somewhat evenly, but damaged areas can deteriorate quicker. When you see smooshy on both sides of a device, its usually DDD. When on one side, it is usually MD. Sometimes it is both. Looking at the coin for clues will help you dial in on what you have.
Kristine, I too had trouble, and still do, in determining how certain things can be, so I hear you. If you think about the minting process, as the fresh working dies become used and worn, the edges round off and it will create the appearance of doubling on both sides of the device, whether it be letters, numbers, or images. I'm a visual learner, and in my old age, I too have vision problems, so I understand you using magnification to "see" your coins, and that's okay, but visualizing how certain things happened can help you "see" each for what it is. Maybe these will help? Good luck, and keep learning.
Kristine, I wonder about your light source. If it has multiple leds, you will have shadows/light areas that can mimic raised/flat areas. Raw LED lights in a circular pattern causes such. Some members have used thin tissue paper, waxed or parchment paper, etc. to lower the contrast of the image and some of the "false" doubling disappears, but true doubling still shows. I have also used a small "light box" from Amazon and for larger things a styrofoam box a pharmacy gets medicine in weekly. One bulb can be enough light and the white styrofoam makes it very multidirectional. Jim
