St. John Chrysostom and Eudoxia

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  1. Gary Waddingham

    Gary Waddingham Well-Known Member

    Saturday was the Feast of St. John Chrysostom in Catholic, Orthodox and Anglican churches. He was bishop or archbishop of Constantinople (the title Patriarch was a few years later) and lived at the end of the fourth century and died in 407. Here is a seal with his picture. Seals are an adjunct of Byzantine coins inasmuch as the skills for deciphering one are closely related to deciphering the other. Also, here is a coin of Eudoxia, his nemesis in Constantinople and the one who caused him to be exiled. You can see by the presence of the manus dei or Hand of God on both the obverse and reverse, she wore her piety somewhat heavily. John called her Jezebel and Herodias, neither term particularly conciliatory. He was a defender of the poor and despised th Chrysostum.jpg eudoxia.jpg ose in power who lived lavishly, a saint for our times if ever there was one.
     
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  3. Caesar_Augustus

    Caesar_Augustus Well-Known Member

    Great writeup! St. John Chrysostom was a great man.
     
  4. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    The seal is awesome, what a great piece of history!!

    Here's my Eudoxia, such as it is (sorry for the poor photo):
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  5. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Eudoxia Antioch AE-4.jpg
    Eudoxia, AD 395-404
    Roman Æ 4 reduced centenionalis; 1.41 g, 12.9 mm
    Antioch, AD 402-404
    Obv: AEL EVDOXIA AVG, diademed and draped bust, right
    Rev: SALVS REIPVBLICAE, Victory seated r., inscribing Christogram on shield set on cippus. ANTΓ in exergue
    Refs: RIC 104; LRBC II 2800; RCV 20895

    Eudoxia Cyzicus AE-4.jpg
    Eudoxia, AD 395-404
    Roman billon Æ 4 reduced centenionalis; 1.94 g, 14.9 mm
    Cyzicus, AD 402-404
    Obv: AEL EVDOXIA AVG, diademed and draped bust, right
    Rev: SALVS REIPVBLICAE, Victory seated r., inscribing Christogram on shield set on cippus. SMKA in exergue
    Refs: RIC 103; LRBC 2589; RCV 20894
     
  6. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    That seal is very cool! It doesn't look like I expected where that cavity is, it looks like cake!

    mmmmmmmmm.........cake.
     
  7. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Here's a somewhat less common Eudoxia:
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    AE3
    Nicomedia mint, A.D. 395-401
    Obv: AEL EVDO-XIA AVG
    Rev: GLORIA RO-MANORVM - Empress on throne, crowned by hand of God
    SMNB in exergue; cross (very faint) in right field
    RIC (Arcadius) 80
    17mm, 2.3g
     
  8. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    As far as condition, this is the best coin of Eudoxia that I have in my possession.

    EudoxClean 0.jpg EudoxCR.jpg
     
  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I only have this Eudoxia to toss in:

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    RI Aelia Eudoxia wife of Arcadius 395-401 CE AE3 2.83g 17mm crowned by hand of God Enthroned Constan mint RIC 79
     
  10. Voulgaroktonou

    Voulgaroktonou Well-Known Member

    A great post. Thank you! And a fine seal representation of "golden mouth"!
     
  11. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    I believe he received his sobriquet, Chrysostom, (Golden Mouth) from his fine speaking and preaching skills. That took courage as well as talent. Eastern Romans rioted and killed one another over matters like "does the Holy Ghost proceed from the Father alone or the father and the Son (filioque) or is Jesus Christ consubstantial with the Father or is Mary really the mother of God (Theotokos) or just Jesus. While such matters might seem inconsequential to us any public preacher like the John Chrysostom mentioned here knew full well he could wind up torn to pieces by an irate, incensed mob.
     
  12. Voulgaroktonou

    Voulgaroktonou Well-Known Member

    Even then, one had to use caution in expressing politically incorrect ideas!
     
  13. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    And theology was very, very political in the late roman and Byzantine empire.
     
  14. Voulgaroktonou

    Voulgaroktonou Well-Known Member

    It certainly was...Monophysites vs. Orthodox, and it went on and on...
     
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