I am looking for the age of a specific certified coin. Does anyone have a relevant link? If I called NGC or PCGS I am not sure they would provide that information.
Here is an article posted by Conder101 describing NGC slabs. http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2248404&page=1
Conder101 has written articles on slab generations & he has posted some of his work here at CT. I have a printed copy & will try to get you a link to it. In the mean time, here are a couple other links from my Internet favorites list: Sample slabs http://www.sampleslabs.com/pcgs.html PCGS Generations thread http://forums.collectors.com/messag...ght_key=y&keyword1=Counterfeit&keyword2=label
Thanks for the link! So if you have a coin with an NGC certification number just shy of 400,000, it is impossible to figure when it was graded? It would be interesting to have a link that would show when the Third Party Graders were the most conservative or loose on grading.
One time, there was a question as to whether my friend's NGC coin was in a fake slab. I called NGC & they looked-up the certificate number for me. I learned the description of the coin in the holder & the date it was graded.
You can use the slab generations to get a rough idea of when the coin was graded, but for the exact date, you'll have to call and talk to them, which is stupid. I don't see why they won't add it to their cert # lookups.
The grading services want to maintain the fiction that it doesn't matter when a coin was graded and that a coin graded in 1986 is not differnt from that same grade in 1990, or 1994, or 1999 etc That a 65 is a 65 is a 65 no matter when it was graded and that the services standards have never varied. Those people who have been around awhile know this is not true and that at some times grading has been more strict and at other times looser. The problem was that if you did know that grading was looser in say the early 1990 you might want to avoid slabs from that period, but since no one knew how to tell when a coin was slabbed you had problems doing that. My identification of the different slab generations and when each was produced helps to defeat the TPG's fiction. It is one of the reason PCGS does not like me. Unfortunately since I do not buy slabbed coins, I have never paid much attention to how well they graded during each of the generation periods. So all I can tell you is when a slab was made, but not whether the grading at the time was tight or loose.
You should work with some dealers to try and determine that, it would probably send your sales through the sky. I mean, every dealer would need it, as well as most collectors that buy slabbed material.
That might work with NGC but the Cert Numbers bounce all over the place with PCGS and its difficult to tell exactly when a specific coin was graded based upon the certification numbers.
PCGS 2, 2.5, 3 and 3.5 are all fairly accurate, drilled down to a span between a week to as long as 2 months. And yes, I understand the difficulties present in getting accurate-ish dates for slabbing, but if any dealer keeps meticulous records going back 15-20 years, you should be able to drill it down relatively accurately. I believe PCGS pulls the first four numbers randomly every week? So if you can figure out the week something was slabbed, combined with how a number of examples are graded... Of course, if you do that, attrition rates come into play in regards to undergraded coins cracked out and whatnot. It would be a ton of work.
:thumb::thumb: The Coin Slab below certified in Baltimore Maryland in Baltimore Coin Show by Mr. Alan Hager on Year 2000 of March. So this coin Holder is Now 11 years old. Slabbing Company Name Accugrade Start 1984 follow by PCGS on 1986 then 1987 NGC. :thumb:
Yep, that is an ACG 20 slab produced between Aug of 1999 and the end of March 2000. In late March 2000 the added their website address in black at the bottom of the back label. (ACG 21)
well i like you i am sure that means more to you than PCGS. They and NGC are useless anyways IMHO for the most part
