Any thoughts on ID (8 Reales, etc) and grades/values would be greatly appreciated. Please see the attached photos.
The first 2 pix are very blurry and they are of coins I know very little about.Starting with the 3rd pic I can tell you what little I know about these coins/pix : #3 is a Pillar Dollar from 1738. It was minted in Mexico City, Mexico. It is a Spanish coin because at that time Spain ruled Mexico. #4 is an 8 Real also minted in Mexico City from the time of Philip V, King of Spain. The M with a dot over it is the mint mark for Mexico City. The F under it is either the initial of the mint master or the assayer. #5 I believe the date is either 1781 or 1791. The ruler is King Charles IV of Spain. #6 I believe this is the reverse of the Charles IV. It is also an 8 Real minted in Mexico City. The initials F and M near the rim refer to the assayer/mint master. I am not an expert on any of these, but that is my take on several of them. There are other members who can help you much more than I can, and perhaps give you evaluation advice. I try not to evaluate other people's coins without being much more sure about the coin itself. Welcome to Coin Talk and Thanks for Posting.
The first one looks like a 2 Reales minted in Mexico City. What is the weight ... it should be .916 silver.
The 1731 is baffling me because of the “M” (assuming that’s a sideways M) below the date. I can’t find another photo online of a 1731 with that M below the date. The 2 Reales weighs at least 6 grams - my cheap scale rounds to the nearest whole number in grams.
The "M below the date" is actually a large M with a smaller "O" on top of it. That is the mintmark for Mexico City and you will find it on Mexican coins for the next 150 years. You may also see a small capital "F" on your coin and that is the assayer's initial (Felipe or Francisco both for 1731). My 18th century Krause has you exact coin listed under 2 Reales", but yours could be a single real or 1/2 real or 4 reales, depending on the weight.
I would call both the second two coins in the VF range, however they appear to have some environmental damage. Cool nonetheless.
That’s really good information fellow members. I put approximate values of 1731 2R ($5), 1738 8R ($20), and 1791 8R ($10). They were mixed in with face value coins (clad Kennedy’s, a clad Ike, a SBA), a circ 1962 Mexico Un Peso ($1), a circ SLQ ($2), and a 68 Kennedy ($1). Hopefully, I didn’t over pay!
I would think the 8 Reales could easily be worth twice your figures. But there is a lot to know about 8R's (including fakes ) and I'm not your man. Hope some others will weigh in yet. I think maybe @RomanTheRussian or @BlackBeard_Thatch or @moneditis could help.
Yes, the more I read, the more I’m worried about all of the Spanish coins being fakes - especially given the setting of the purchase and the values of the accompanying coins! I might have gotten myself in over my head with these coins!
The Spanish coins could all be fakes. Post the photos on the World Coins forum and ask if they are real. You'll find out very quickly.
