Some grade opinions on this 1878 cc morgan please

I just picked this one up today at a local coin show. It is a great dmpl (hard to tell from the scan), and it has a nice frosted appearance. I'm thinking it's a 63, maybe a 62. Any thoughts please?

 

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Ms-63

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I wanna say MS64 maybe MS65?

 

64 without a doubt... 65? could have a shot, but would need to see that one in hand. The chatter on the fields looks pretty minor, and I've seen worse on 65 coins.

 

MS-63 maybe MS-64.

 

Zaneman, are you gonna have it slabbed? If yes, post the results.

 

Tough to say from those pics. I'd guess 62 easy, shot at 63 or higher, depending on luster...Mike

 

The luster on this coin, is probably nicer than on any coin I've ever owned.

 

I am going to have it slabbed! I'll be sure and post the results

 

Looks MS 63 to me

I don't think your coin will go for MS 64. But, I tend to grade Morgans conservatively. Nice fields though.

 

The quality isn't great but here is the best I can do

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest MS-64 too. Nothing like asking a non-expert though.

 

Not to take away from the moment for you Zaneman but I've purchased some Morgans and have wondered about the following... According to Scott A. Travers, At least 90 percent of all brilliant, untoned mint state silver dollars have been dipped (Coin Collectors Survival Manual; pp:172).

My question is this:

If that is the case, why wouldn't TPG's state "cleaned" on all their slabs of Morgan's, or at least the dipped ones?

Anyway this is an absolutly beautiful coin... great acquisition !

 

If a coin has been properly dipped, the experts usually cannot tell it has been dipped, and dipping, when done correctly does not damage a coin, providing it has not been dipped previously. Please note that some people do consider dipping as damage, but experts do not.

 

Yeah I've read that also, that's why this topic confusses me a bit. Is a dipped coin damaged or not? I've read that under an electron microscope you can detect a dipped coin. The luster swirls are ecentially burned away, and thats why dipped coins some times look a little flat. Then you have people wizzing coins to get that lost luster back.

But, I guess if the experts concider it not to be damaged (hence slabs not stating so) then they aren't damaged.

 

It's true that if you look at a coin under a high power magnification, it alters the surface. But realistically, why would you do that anyway, seeing that all coins look odd under that power.

 

Remember that just because the emperor claims to be wearing a fine robe, he may still have no clothes on. Just a reminder that the experts can and do change their opinions from time to time.

 

I'll definitely do that. I plan to send them to PCGS, so I will request VAM attribution. If it's something new will they let me know?