Some expensive silver!

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  1. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

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  3. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I don't think I would admit to that.
     
  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Too dang goofy for my tastes.
     
  5. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

    Why not?

    I also grew up with Spongebob :D
     
  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Spongebob is clever and funny. My little one was enamored with it when she was 4, and I think I've seen every episode. But I prefer my bullion to look a little less goofy.
     
  7. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

    That wasn't for you John.... You must have posted while I was writing ;)
     
  8. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    And the mintage is 100,000. Crazy
     
  9. Juan Blanco

    Juan Blanco New Member

    Seven bidders. Still, CHEAP @ $363.22 on 11/19/12 POS @ 32.67, a 178% premium.
    Why? APMEX currently sells 'em for over USD$ 600. (a 379% premium today)
    http://www.apmex.com/Product/66921/...SpongeBob_Coin_Set_in_Treasure_Chest_Box.aspx

    The original premium, fwiw, appears to have been 186% in November 2011 and 211% in December 2011. I have no idea how many of the projected 100k were actually minted, or how quickly whatever mintage sold out. http://www.ibtimes.com/spongebob-squarepants-silver-coins-be-sold-sets-four-553158

    Interesting story about the PFG Mint - a cautionary tale to anyone buying bullion from 'little operators.'
    http://www.boxofglitter.com/portfolios/2012-niue-2-spongebob-squarepants-set/
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/19/us-peregrine-bankruptcy-spongebob-idUSBRE86I15N20120719
    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/busi...was-long-spongebob-squarepants-bullion/54801/

    I alluded to Russell Wasendorf Sr. on the Norfeds thread: THAT'S HIM. I had no idea he was Silver scammer too.
    http://www.cointalk.com/t218929-7/#post1596055
     
  10. Juan Blanco

    Juan Blanco New Member

    I don't watch teevee - has this been turned into an episode on AdultSwim ??? PFGBest still has a "website" to collect investor money but it hasn't been updated since the CEO was arrested. Black Hole? http://www.pfgpreciousmetals.com/

    If we are to believe hysterical conspiracy theorist/ 'Tyler Durden' on ZeroHedge, the Silver has been transferred to JP Morgan's vaults (AHAHAHAhahahaha!)
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/pfgbe...on-segregated-client-money-has-just-vaporized

    Or will the burned PFG futures clients get paid in Spongebob coins ? lol Looking for data on the 'SpongeBob' bullion. Found this.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/07/peregrine-financial-spongebob-coins_n_1864897.html

    More info here:
    http://commoditycustomercoalition.org/?p=1608

    "Peregrine owns 1,528 sets, according to the bankruptcy court filing's 180-page document that lists assets and some liabilities. A note added, "2 sets were located in Iowa desks, 1 set is held by Tom Garland in Chicago, and FBI inventoried 1449 sets; so PFG is missing 76 sets."

    How many sets were produced and SOLD, actually? Nowhere close to 100k obv... so, maybe just 2,000 or so? Maybe someone will contact NZ Mint and get the stat?
    http://www.nzmint.com/people

    Super, SUPER COLLECTIBLE at such low mintages (and where the "FBI seized bullion" might yet be melted.)
     
  11. Juan Blanco

    Juan Blanco New Member

    o.k. quick perusal of feeBay shows 15 sets available, USD$ 650. - 850. (10 for that HIGH price, from a German seller.)

    Recent sales might give you an idea 'market price' base-price to OFFER - fwiw, these bullion collectibles are retaining value much much better than Norfeds have.

    January 2013: 117 -153% Premium Over POS (avg ~ 130%)
    12/7/12: 172% Premium Over POS
    November 2012: 127 -189% Premium Over POS (avg ~ 158%)
    10/25/12: 138% Premium Over POS
    9/22/12: 84% Premium Over POS
    7/2/12: 124% Premium Over POS (BEFORE PFGBest collapsed/seized)
    6/28/12: 128% Premium Over POS
     
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