Some coins with 19th century collector's tags

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Victor_Clark, Aug 23, 2024.

  1. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    I don't really care about who owned a coin before me; but I do keep all the old tags with the coins. I just got a Maxentius in and decided to post it along with some others.

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    Maxentius
    A.D. 309
    Ӕ follis 23x26mm 6.5g
    IMP C MAXENTIVS P F AVG; laureate head right.
    AETERNITAS AVG N; Castor and Pollux standing facing each other, each leaning on sceptre with outer left arm and holding bridled horse, she-wolf with twins between them.
    In ex. MOSTΓ
    RIC VI Ostia 16

    Some doubling on reverse

    Ex. William C. Boyd (1840-1906) from Reverend Simpson on 16 Dec 1889


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    I imagine that this coin may have been a Christmas present from Reverend Simpson to William Boyd.

    Boyd's collection was sold by Baldwin's in 2005; but this coin was in a group lot and not illustrated.

    https://archive.org/details/auctionnumber42w00bald/page/3/mode/1up









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    Magnentius
    A.D. 350-3
    22x24mm 4.5g
    DN MAGNEN-TIVS PF AVG; bare-headed, draped and cuirassed bust right; A behind bust.
    VICTORIAE DD NN AVG ET CAES; two Victories holding wreath inscribed with VOT V MVLT X.
    In ex. SPAR
    RIC VIII Arles 167

    ex- Daniel Turner

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    This Magnentius is from the collection of Daniel Turner (1794- 1850) who was a War of 1812 veteran. At the age of 14, Turner started his Navy career. In 1813, he was promoted to Lieutenant and joined Oliver Perry’s squadron and commanded the brig Caledonia in the Battle of Lake Erie. On September 10, 1813, Turner’s suppressive fire for Perry's flagship Lawrence was so impressive and effective, that he earned a Congressional medal and a sword from the State of New York. He eventually commanded the USS Constitution in 1839 and served in the Navy until his sudden death in 1850.

    https://ussconstitutionmuseum.org/crew/daniel-turner/

    His collection, which included 292 Ancient Greek, Roman, medieval, and Islamic coins, stayed in his family until it was sold at auction in 2015.


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    The mintmark SPAR, coincidentally, is also a Navy term for a pole used to support the sail or a type of deck-- spar deck.










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    Constantine I
    AD 316
    22x23mm 5.1gm
    CONSTANTINVS P F AVG; laureate, draped and cuirassed bust seen from the rear.
    MARTI CON-SERVATORI; Mars, helmeted, stg. r. leaning on reversed spear, l. resting shield on ground; T/F across fields.
    In ex. PTR
    RIC VI Trier 864

    ex- Elberling 1867

    Dr. Elberling (1797- 1873) had a very large collection of Roman coins with many rarities. He published ten articles about the rarest coins in his collection, and material from these articles was used in Henri Cohen's Roman Imperial catalogues - Description historique des monnaies frappées sous l'empire romain


    "Dr. Elberling was a German army doctor who was born in 1797 in Silesia, and retired to Luxembourg. He began collecting coins in 1842, after his retirement, and he published ten articles on "The most important Roman Coins in my Collection" in a Luxembourg scientific journal, 1862-1874 (the last posthumous, and with an obituary, whence I derive these facts). He died in Dec. 1873, and his collection, comprising 775 gold coins, over 1000 Republican denarii, c. 2700 Roman imperial denarii, c. 5500 bronze coins, and c. 100 medallions in the various metals, was acquired by the Paris coin dealer Rollin & Feuardent. He particularly sought rare and unpublished coins, and it was 547 coins of this sort that he published in his articles, with 24 plates of quite accurate line drawings. Cohen, and after Cohen's death Feuardent, of course drew on Elberling's ten articles when compiling the second edition of Cohen's famous Roman imperial catalogue."



    This coin (along with many others) was donated to the Academic coin cabinet of Leiden in 1867, by Dr. Elberling. The academic cabinet merged with the National coin cabinet, but the gifts and donations remained at the university; until recently, when they were reincorporated into the National Numismatic Collection in the Netherlands
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I love those old tags. I only own a few that are old. But like you, I tend to not be a fan of other people's tags, especially if the information is off or lacks info that I like to have on my tags.
     
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  4. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Absolutely wonderful coins Victor. I really enjoy coins that come with provenance stories like this.
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Ditto!
     
  6. nerosmyfavorite68

    nerosmyfavorite68 Well-Known Member

    Very neat! I especially like the Magnentius.

    Only one coin of mine comes to mind with a tag - I have an attractive Antiochus III tet I have was once reportedly part of one of the 'robber baron's" The one who donated to a Boston museum - I always get the individuals mixed up) collection, from a 1990's Alex Malloy sale, but came with no paper work.

    The ugly Lucius Verus was purchased for the old provenance, and it was my first Lucius Verus coin at the time. What makes the high points of the coin wear flat like that? Harsh cleaning?

    Lucius Verus - 161-169 - AR Denarius RIC III 482 - ex E. Boudeau, Paris - pre-1912.jpg



    Attribution: RIC III 482 Rome
    Date: AD 161-162
    Obverse: IMP L AVREL VERVS AVG, bare head right
    Reverse: PROV-DEOR TR P II COS II, Providentia standing left, holding globe and cornucopia
    Size: 16.90mm
    Weight: 2.96 grams
    Description: toned good Fine. Includes old yellowed paper envelope from the coin dealer E. Boudeau, Paris - dating prior to 1912 - with dealer name, coin description and price (1.80 francs, about 36 cents) hand-written in French with an ink pen. Élie Boudeau (1853-1912) was a politician and numismatist in late 19th century-early 20th century Paris. He served in the 5th legislature of the Third French Republic from 12 November 1889 to 14 October 1893. He owned a shop in the numismatic district of Paris at 11 Rue Rameau, only a stones throw from the Bibliotheque Nationale and one block from the Rue Vivienne where several coin shops, including CGB, still exist today.

    *I initially had trouble posting the picture but it was just complaining about the filename. I have a workaround for that.

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    Last edited: Aug 24, 2024
  7. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    I just added this coin from a 19th- 20th century collection

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    Maximianus
    A.D. 289
    Ӕ Antoninianus 23mm 3.8g
    IMP C MAXIMIANVS P AVG; Radiate and cuirassed bust left, holdig spear and shield.
    HERCVLI INVICTO AVGG; Hercules stg. l., holding Victory on globe, club and lion’s skin; in left field S.
    RIC Vii Lugdunum 369


    Ex Grohs-Fligely collection 1875-1962, with collector's ticket.

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    Anton Grohs-Fligely was born in Transylvania in 1825. Anton Grohs had initially been initiated into the priesthood by his family, but after two years of study in the seminary he realized that this was not the life for him. He came to Vienna in 1847, where he began studying pharmacy at the university. So,after earning his living first working in a brewery and then in a tannery, he finally became a pharmacist working in several pharmacies in Vienna. Of a curious nature and animated by an innovative spirit, he invented and prepared gelatine preparations used for the production of capsules, tablets, sugared almonds and suppositories, becoming famous in his field so much so that, in 1870, he received the concession to manage a large pharmacy in Vienna, the Apoteke zur Austria in Wahringstrasse 18 and which still exists today. (from lamoneta.it)

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