Slabbed Coin Toning...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Coll3ctor, Apr 20, 2021.

  1. Coll3ctor

    Coll3ctor New Member

    How is it that a professionally graded/slabbed coin can tone? Is the slab not air tight or do other elements come to play?

    I also have numerous capsuled government issued coins stored in same location where a few have toned and others have not.


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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Depends on the company and where you store them,enviormental issues.
     
  4. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    And what are they?copper,silver,modern,old e.t.c
     
  5. Coll3ctor

    Coll3ctor New Member

    I have both PCGS and NGC modern silver coins that have issues. My home is always controlled with lower humidity.
     
  6. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    do you have pictures of the effected coins,the toining type/color and pattern might be the key.
     
  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Almost nothing is air tight. Certainly not a chunk of plastic that entombs a coin.
    I think the biggest thing you have to figure are: what factors were already in play on the surface of the coin before it was put in plastic.
     
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  8. Coll3ctor

    Coll3ctor New Member

    Many are unc/proof silver eagles with hazing, toning or spots. Many of my reverse proofs from 2006 have gone bad :(
     
  9. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    I think it's a combination of ambient storage environment, the metal composition and surface conditions, and the inside of the slab. If many of your slabbed coins are toning badly, then it could be something in the storage environment. But sometimes, it's just something with the coin and/or slab. I have this one (below) as part of a 4-coin set. All the other 3 are still perfect, whereas this one has a milk spot near the horse's tail. Fortunately it's not glaringly apparent (I just took this photo from the worst possible angle to highlight the spot) and, since I noticed it about 2 years ago, it hasn't gotten any worse.

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  10. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    If it happens consistently with someone’s coins it’s something in their environment. Nothing in coins is actually air tight in the sense of the environment could never have an impact and the cost of making something would be astronomical and you wouldn’t be able to see the coin anymore. Something in the coins minting or life before being slabbed could be the cause sometimes as well. That said slabs are by far the best protection
     
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  11. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Slabs aren’t air tight. Before I learned my lesson on storage, I had a beautiful type 1 SLQ in my gun safe. It went black on me over the course of two years.
     
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  12. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    Type 1?! Can you send it in to NGC for conservation and regrading?
     
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  13. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    No sir.... A good man here on the board helped me to unload that coin. And I was glad to be shut of it too!
     
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  14. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    Yeah gun safes are a big no-no for coin storage.
     
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