Silver EID MAR Auction: Guess the final bid

Bart9349 · Jul 20, 2011

Seems a little high to me, but the high-end market can get silly:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-set-fetch-300-000-auction.html#ixzz1SOWw1zkM

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Ardatirion · Jul 20, 2011

Heritage has a tremendous mailing list, and this is the kind of coin that would get a wealthy US collector interested. Who knows where it will go.

dougsmit · Jul 22, 2011

I'll bet it sells out of the US.

Merc Crazy · Jul 22, 2011

$335k not including juice.

Bart9349 · Jul 22, 2011

A museum might pay this amount, but I doubt it with the current economic climate.

This controversial Gold EID Mar sold for slightly more than $92,000 in 2004:

Controversial? Read on:

http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=4055

In particular professor Crawford decided not to include this coin in his "Roman Republican Coinage". The reasons for this are explained by professor Crawford in appendix, p. 552, n. 107. He considered the coin to be a forgery, even though he had only seen a picture of it, as he was not convinced of the existence of this issue and of the theories adopted by professor H. Cahn in the article where this coin was published for the fist time in 1953. He also considered the coin to be suspicious in its self. As further backing of his own opinion, Crawford gave news of a further three specimens regarded as false, he also informed of a cast of this specimen at the ANS with a label reading: Forgery - Athens.

In 1989, professor Cahn, in his Corpus on denarii and aurei with EID MAR, challenged Crawford's theories. In particular confirming what already sustained in his first article, where he maintained as reasonable that even L. Plaetorius Cestianus struck aurei like the other moneyers associated with Brutus, and added, thanks to the study on dies, that the style and the epigraphy of this coin perfectly matched the series.

During research carried out on this specimen, we found a cast in the drawers of the original coins of the BM with a label reading: "Shown by O. Ravel, 27.5.32". We then met with professor Crawford and personally submitted the coin to him; after he finally had the chance to examine the coin we asked for his opinion, he replied that he had "no view", and suggested we try to figure out who wrote the label and why. Could it only be a personal opinion or based on facts? We got in touch with ANS and unfortunately they were unable to locate the cast and the label in question. To conclude, we would like to bring some of our considerations to the attention of experts and collectors: These dies are not known in silver, therefore if the coin is a forgery, the dies would have to be engraved in the 19th century or at the beginning of last century. We honestly think that no artist or forger would be able to reproduce in such a faithful way the spirit of that age. To condemn this coin means doubting all the denarii in this series that share with this coin certain stylistic and epigraphic characteristics and in particular the dies from n. 20 to 24 of Cahn's work, published in 1989.

In analysing this series we must not forget the difficult historic context of this issue, which was struck for a very brief period of time, immediately before the battle of Philippi. It also has be considered that the piercing of the coin has altered its appearance and made the analysis even more difficult. In conclusion we believe that, in spite of the great respect we have for professor Crawford, there are no objective elements to consider this coin a forgery.
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