show us your ancient fourre

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  1. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    I read about these in a ancient book but there were no pictures and i hope you guys have some of these official counterfeits to show off Id love to see them. post away
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    C FABIUS CF HADRIANUS ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS FABIA
    Fourree Denarius
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    CN.PLANCIVS ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS PLANCIA
    Fourree Denarius
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  5. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    is the rusty color the copper or iron showing threw the silver
     
  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Copper. I have one other but it has no silver remaining at all. Just the copper core:

    P. SATRIENUS ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS SATRIENA
    Fourree Denarius
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  7. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

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    Vespasian. AD 69-79.​
    Fourrée Denarius (18mm, 2.14 g, 7 h)​
    Copying a Rome mint issue of AD 77-78.​
    Laureate head right​
    Pair of oxen under yoke left​
    Cf. RIC II 943​
     
  8. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    pretty cool i hope to see more tommarrow
     
  9. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    maybe ill get one of these for more collection to put next to a full silver one.

    is it possible that some people may have some of these but think there full silver.

    as long as the orginal owner never cut it
     
  10. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

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    Asia,Baktria
    Menander I Soter 165/55-130 BC
    Fourree Drachm 16.6 mm x 2.06g
    Obverse: Helmeted bust of youthful Menander right. BASILEWS SWTHPOS
    Reverse: Kharoshti script -Athena Alkidemos with shield and Thunderbolt advancing left. (Blundered?)Monogram in right field.
    Host ref: MIG 218c
     
  11. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

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    The fouree core of a Dyrrachium drachm.

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    Julius Caesar Denarius (fouree') . 46-45 BC, Spanish mint. Diademed head of Venus right, Cupid on her shoulder / CAESAR below Gallia & Gaulish captive seated beneath trophy of Gallic arms. Syd 1014, Crawford 468/1, RSC 13

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    Fouree silver plated denarius, cf. RSC I Volteia 4 (official, Rome mint, 78 B.C.), Fair, illegal mint, weight 2.881g, maximum diameter 17.5mm, c. 78 - 40 B.C.; obverse laureate helmeted head of Attis right; reverse Cybele seated in chariot drawn by two lions; with a John Quincy Adams Collection tag from the Stack's Sale Ex John Quincy Adams Collection, 6th President of the United States, and His Descendants, ex Massachusetts Historical Society Collection, ex Stack’s Sale , 5-6 March 1971. lot 907 ? ex Forvm
     
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  12. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    not a fourree but thought i'd post thiso ne


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    Lucius Verus, Ancient Counterfeit with Faustina II Reverse Silver denarius, for reverse cf. RIC III Faustina II A506a, Fair, illegal mint, weight 1.553g, maximum diameter 17.3mm, die axis 0o,obverse L VERVS AVG ARM PARTH MAX, laureate head right; reverse LAETITIAE PVBLICAE, Laetitia standing left, diadem in right, scepter in right "Interesting hybrid of a Marcus Aurelius obverse with a Faustina II reverse (RIC A506a.)" ex Forvm
     
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  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    This coin was given to me by my favourite coin seller (he said that it was probably a fouree, but because I'm a gryphon fan, he gave it to me as a gift)

    ... the first two home-photos are of the supposed fouree (the third photo shows what the real coin is supposed to look like)

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  15. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Jerry, does that coin have a lead core? Have you tested it with a magnet?
     
  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hi JA ... well, I tested it with a magnet and it is "not" magnetic ... but as you probably already know, that means it may have a lead core (lead is non-magnetic), but it could also have a copper, bronze, etc, or any other non-magnetic core) ...

    I did decide to weigh it (I bought a wonderful lil' weigh-scale during my vacation) and it weighs 2.98 grams .... so then I went to Wildwinds and researched what an authentic Thrace Abdera Tetrobol weighs and discovered two examples: 2.87 and 2.86 grams

    ... so, I am a bit confused whether this is authentic, or whether it is a fake? (ummm, the condition is less than ideal, so I'm sure that it's not worth a fortune ... but if it is authentic, then it is worth a few bucks ... and if it's not authentic, then it's still pretty cool)

    => either way => Batman rocks!!
     
  17. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I'm not saying it doesn't look like a fouree, it's just that it looks like it has a lead core, and from what I've seen, the lead cores are far less common than copper or bronze.
     
  18. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    well JA, the coin is quite worn, yet it actually weighs a bit more than the two authentic examples, so you certainly may be onto somethun'?

    o_O
     
  19. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I don't think I would be concerned with a 0.11 difference with the coins posted on Wildwinds. I'm sure that is within tolerance, especially when considering wear over the past couple of thousand years.
     
  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => I hear ya, Bing ... I was more concerned with the fact that Dionysos told me that it may be a fouree (that holds more water with me than my cool, new weigh-scale!!)

    ;)
     
  21. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/fourree.html
    Above is the first of my series of four fourree pages. I have a few not on the pages and a few that got separate pages of their own because they are more special than most.

    Here are a few I like starting with Greek. Some are more obviously plated than others. g00150bb0320.jpg g00220bb0690.jpg g01250b00444alg.jpg g01442bb2612.jpg g01990b00470jy05.jpg g02540bb0605.jpg
     
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