She-Wolf mintmark ID...?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Steven Michael Gardner, Nov 24, 2019.

  1. Steven Michael Gardner

    Steven Michael Gardner Well-Known Member

    Hello all.
    I need a judgment call, the mintmark on this to me could be any of the four
    ID's below, I know the one I think or wish it to be, however I have no idea
    what D3 & D4 mean for Bust types... Please let me know your thoughts
    after a review of my uploaded photos..?? Thanks Steven


    Wildwinds ID's Mintmark Bust Type Rarity

    Alexandra: RIC VII 63. SMALB. D4 facing left Roma Scarce.

    Alexandra: RIC VII 70. SMALB. D4 facing left Roma R2

    Antioch: RIC VII 91. SMANB D3 facing left Roma R5

    Antioch: RIC VII 9. SMANB D3 facing left Roma R5.
    (Oval on shoulder of wolf 330-335 AD.)
     

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  3. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    D4 has a plume on the helmet not present on D3. This is found on RIC VII page 88. I regularly waste my breath with my opinion that people should either buy RIC or not worry about the RIC catalog numbers. Just copying them from hearsay, third party sources leads to errors. I donot have an Alexandria D3 and the D$ coins vary in the size/details of the plume.

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    This one has a weak oval on shoulder of wolf that would show better on a finer specimen.
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    Below is a D3 from Kysikos mint. My level of interest in these coins does not extend to plume level but the distinction was made in RIC so many people find it of interest.
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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Yours is from Alexandria, so scratch Antioch off your list. The difference between 63 and 70 is the size of the module. There was a debasement and the later coins (70) were smaller. Here's the footnote in RIC VII about this:

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    Here is the key to the bust types for the Urbs Roma series from RIC. Not as helpful as Doug's examples, but it's something you can print out.

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    If this is a series you would like to collect, I would encourage you -- as has Doug -- to not rely on Wildwinds, ORC, dealer's sites, etc., for your attributions but to buy the volume of RIC yourself.

    Here are three examples of coins with plumes:

    VRBS ROMA GLORIA EXERCITVS.jpg
    VRBS ROMA Wolf and Twins Arles.jpg
    VRBS ROMA Wolf and Twins Cyzicus.jpg
     
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  5. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Good advice, but unfortunately this series spans two volumes: V.7 & V.8, each of which will run you around $150. So maybe Doug's comment-
    -makes more sense in this case.
     
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