severus British campaign

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  1. ernstk

    ernstk Active Member

    I saw this nice video on Septimus severus attack on Britain apparently one of the largest campaign of Romans. And a coin of him




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  3. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    I haven't watched your linked video yet, but I'm excited to! I watch lots of historical docs on YouTube like this.

    I no longer have any Sept Sev that were of the period of his British invasion; just 193-196 AD issues.

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    Septimius Severus, Ruled 193-211 AD
    AE Sestertius, Struck 193 AD, Rome mint

    Obverse: IMP CAES L SEPT SEV PERT AVG, laureate head right.
    Reverse: VICT AVG TR P COS, Victory, winged, draped, advancing left, holding wreath in extended right hand and palm sloped over left shoulder in left hand; S-C across fields.
    References: RIC IV 656
    Size: 30mm, 21.2g


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    Septimius Severus, Ruled 193-211 AD
    AE Sestertius, Struck 195 AD, Rome mint

    Obverse: L SEPT SEV PERT AVG IMP V, laureate head right.
    Reverse: SAECVLI FELICITAS, Felicitas, draped, standing left, foot on prow, holding caduceus in right hand and cornucopiae in left hand; S-C across fields.
    References: RIC IV 692a
    Size: 29mm, 21.45g


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    Septimius Severus, Ruled 193-211 AD
    AE Sestertius, Struck 196 AD, Rome mint

    Obverse: L SEPT SEV PERT AVG IMP VIII, laureate head right.
    Reverse: P M TR P V COS II P P, Pax, draped, seated left, holding branch in extended right hand and sceptre in left hand; S-C across fields.
    References: RIC IV 727a
    Size: 29mm, 22.1g
    cf: Bertolami Fine Arts, E-Auction 43 (7/9/17), Lot # 633 (Reverse die match)
     
  4. ernstk

    ernstk Active Member

    Very nice coins thanks for sharing! I am a fan of YouTube history documentaries too. Although I don't have much knowledge of this period but watching the video I learned some. It shows a coin of him saying "Victor Brit" I wish I had one of those but seems expensive. Do you know which year my coin is minted or the city of mint?
     
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  5. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Do you have size or weight of your coin? Initially it looks like the layout of a silver denarius bit of doesn't look silver... Any more info you have would be helpful.

    Edit 1: I see for your legends are L SEPT SEV PERT AVG IMP VII on obverse and PM TR P III COS II P P on reverse. It appears to be maybe Fortuna on feverfew holding rudder on globe and holding cornucopia.

    Edit 2: Looks like this one: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1083206
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    But I'm still uncertain about your coins metal makeup from your photo. Because the reverse doesn't have the SC that appears on imperial bronze, I can only guess it is silver or AE limes denarius. Based on the numbers in the legends, it should be 195-196 AD.
     
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  6. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    You can get coins connected to the British campaign for decent prices, like the type with Neptune reverse that references the crossing of the English Channel.
     
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  7. ernstk

    ernstk Active Member

    How much such coin worth? I search in CNG and seems some sold for 400s
     
  8. ernstk

    ernstk Active Member

    Thanks for reply. I think the coin is silver but likely not a fine silver. the weight is 2.8
     
  9. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    I don't have any in stock, but I sold three recently, probably not as nice as the CNG examples though.

    $45

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    $45


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    $50


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  10. John Conduitt

    John Conduitt Well-Known Member

    Nice video. An interesting part of history!

    The VICTORIAE BRIT ones (featuring Victory) aren't expensive - under $100 (obviously depending on quality).

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    Septimus Severus, denarius, 210-211, Rome. SEVERVS - PIVS AVG BRIT. VICTORIAE - BRIT (RIC IV 332).

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    Caracalla, denarius, 210-211, Rome. ANTONINVS - PIVS AVG BRIT. VICTORIAE - BRIT (RIC IV 231A).

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    Geta, denarius, 210-211, Rome. P SEPT GETA PIVS - AVG BRIT. VICTORI-AE - BRIT (RIC IV 92).
     

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  11. dougsmit

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    Another: Here Septimius is looking tired. The end is near.
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  12. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

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  13. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    That seems excessively expensive to me. Mine is an attractive example and was about $100 (after fees) in a well-attended auction. I might have overpaid a bit. But I was specifically looking for a good Neptune reverse, and it doesn't get much nicer than this one. As @Victor_Clark mentioned above, regular problem free denarii of this type can be had for about half as much.

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    Septimius Severus, Roman Empire, denarius, 210 AD, Rome mint. Obv: SEVERVS PIVS AVG; head of Septimius Severus, laureate, r. Rev: P M TR P XVIII COS III P P; Neptune, naked except for cloak over l. shoulder and r. arm, standing l., r. foot set on globe, holding trident in l. hand. 19 mm., 3,54 g Ref: RIC IV Septimius Severus 234.
     
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  14. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Here's a Severus ex the @Sallent collection:

    Denarius of Severus featuring Neptune, most likely commemorating his visit to Britain by sea.

    Septimius Severus, A.R. Denarius, Rome mint, 210 C.E.

    3.3 grams, 19.1 mm

    Obverse: Laureate head right, SEVERVS PIVS AVG

    Reverse: PMTRP XVIII COS III PP

    Neptune standing left, nude but for cloak over left shoulder and right arm, right foot on rock, right arm resting on right knee, trident vertical behind in left hand.


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  15. ernstk

    ernstk Active Member

    Here is the one sold for over 400 in CNG and it is from a recent sale:

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  16. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    CNG is probably the most respected auction house for ancient coins in the US, and they offer top quality material. They also tend to attract a small group of bidders who frankly don't have to care whether a coin they like goes for a couple hundred or thousand dollars over estimate. Therefore, their auction results often are not representative of the market situation as a whole.

    A look at the Sixbid archive (here) will give you a different picture of how much VICTORIAE BRIT denarii of Septimius Severus usually go for. If you are in the market for such a coin, that's a good resource to find out what a typical price point looks like. (You'll of course have to add c. 20% to the hammer price for fees and shipping.)
     
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  17. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Much worn iconic coin issued by Septimius Severus to celebrate and commemorate his Victory over Britain resulting from his Scotland campaign.

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    Septimius Severus, Sestertius, RIC IV, Rome No. 796, AD 210

    Obverse depiction: Laureate bust of Septimius Severus facing right
    Obverse Inscription: L SEPT SEVERVS PIVS AVG

    Reverse depiction: Two Victories, winged, draped, standing left and right, facing each other and fixing a shield to a palm tree, at the foot of which are two seated British captives.
    Reverse Inscription: P M TR P XVIII COS III P P - S C in exergue

    I love this coin, but I hope someone will post a pic of one in better condition, maybe RIC No. 818 which is the same as this except it has VICTORIAE BRITANNICAE as the Reverse legend.
     
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  18. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    A great reference:

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  19. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

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    Septimius Severus. 193-211 AD. AR Denarius (19mm; 3.44 gm; 12h). Struck 210 AD. Obv: Laur. head r. Rev: VICTORIAE BRIT, Victory seated left on two shields, supporting with her right hand shield set on her knee and holding palm in left. RIC IV 335; BMCRE 61; RSC 731, except shields below Victory have beaded edges. Die break on Septimius' forehead.
     
  20. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Geta as celebrating the victory in Britain:

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    (210-212 A.D.) Rome Mint

    P SEPTIMIVS GETA PIVS AVG BRIT, laureate head right, slight drapery on left shoulder / VICTORIAE BRITTANICAE Victory seated left on shields, holding shield & palm, SC in ex.
    RIC 191b; Akerman Brit p. 68; Sear 7285 var. (bust type).
    (8.09 grams / 24 mm)
     
  21. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    While I certainly agree with the above, the CNG coin with shield is a considerable upgrade pose compared to the ordinary Victory walking and there are people who will pay for the difference. I feel we do a disservice to new collectors by sending them to review CNG results unless they are prepared to see all the minor differences and understand the power of the mailing list. Few sellers have clientele that really do not care what they pay to the level of CNG. I am a major league cheapskate and still buy a few coins from CNG but only when I see something I want and really do not believe can be found elsewhere or when it appears that the 'Big Dogs' would not be interested in the coin. If I were to evaluate my collection using CNG realizations for every coin, I would be fooling myself into thinking my holdings were worth at least five times what I might get if I were to sell elsewhere. Of course the sellers, especially of the low end coins that run afoul of the minimum per lot charges, do not get all that money. There are a few of the European sellers that will get more but CNG realizations are not overall representative.
     
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