Seriously...my dream coin is up on eBay!

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  1. sundance

    sundance Copper Enthusiast

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  3. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    That is sweet! :thumb:

    Chuck always has good cooper and he has a following so the prices are always high but not too high. ;)

    Ribbit :)

    Ps: You don't have to worry about me bidding on it. ;) I've got to save my money now to have startup money for the business I'm taking over at the first of the year, so no more coin buying for me, unless it's something I just can't live without. :D Speaking of which, currently there happens to be a copper that I've got my eye on and if I win it, I'll post it once it comes in, since it's an overstamp and I'll have to figure out what got overstamped before posting it. :kewl:
     
  4. sundance

    sundance Copper Enthusiast

    :computer: I hate eBay sometimes...never should just 'look' for fun...now I want that coin sooo badly and I know there are like a bazillion other people who are thinking the same thing.

    Any idea if Chuck would just take money for an auction, instead of letting my heart go pitter patter and break because some, *ahem* jerk decides to place that last 'haha' bid???
     
  5. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Chuck is like most sellers, once there's a bid they won't consider a BIN. ;) That's why you should stick him in your favorites so you can check his stuff daily to see the new additions, to make an offer prior to someone bidding. ;) However, I think the bidding process is the best way to get it at a better price. :)

    Ribbit :)
     
  6. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

  7. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Sundance, i had already seen this coin, but as with Toad, no need to worry about me, i have already spent my allowance for september, october (and november, and december) on two 1796's, and 1C 1809, and a 25C 1824, and also some ancients...

    This '94 is a nice coin, no question. Strong overall and not corroded. I like the reverse better than the obverse though, and i wonder if it was not cleaned at some point. Still nice.

    I got bid-out of a similarly nice 1794 on eBAY-UK a few days ago. That was one purty coin, S-65 i think. Too bad.... When they come up like this in good shape and nice surfaces, you will need some strong motivation to come up the winner.
    Good luck,
    Eduard
     
  8. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    No competition from me for two reasons:
    1. My XF 1799 took care of any spare change I had lying around.
    2. It's not slabbed.
     
  9. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    I'd bid on it but that $5 shipping and postage fee is out of my budget :rolleyes:;)
     
  10. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Ebay is try to limit shipping charges Carl
    That a nice coin I wish I had some money to bid with!
     
  11. sundance

    sundance Copper Enthusiast

    Slabbed for me isn't that big of a deal...if it is from a dealer I can get references from. I can see we have a reference here on the board in Toad so...that helps :)

    Odds are if i win this one I will send it in to be slabbed. Wouldn't want it lying around in that flimsy little cardboard 'protector'

    Yeah the obverse looks like it was once clean but the features are to die for...and the reverse makes me want it even more. Ooooo I hate waiting!

    *Oh and yesterday I went to see someone to claimed to have a 1794 Cap...it was gross. Had deep gouges and pits and sooo worn. They wanted 200 bucks for it. I laughed my way out of the shop
     
  12. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Since the coin does appear to have been cleaned, I would assume you'd send it to ANACS.
    Be advised. I think they have REALLY tightened up their grading.
     
  13. sundance

    sundance Copper Enthusiast

    Yep that's the one ;)
     
  14. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Not sure what you mean by reference? If you mean atributing, then I and several others are good at that but we all can make a mistake. However, if one of us makes a mistake, one of the others will usually catch it. ;) I think it's sorta like a game, to see if we can catch the other making a mistake :D but that's rare. :kewl:

    Ribbit :)
     
  15. Irespire

    Irespire Senior Member

    I wouldn't buy from him. He, or whoever works for him, labeled a coin 'choice original XF' which was maybe VF 25 or VF 30, cleaned reverse. I couldn't tell from the pictures that it was cleaned, but I could tell it certainly wasn't XF. But I went anyway, because a no problem VF coin would have been worth a considerable amount over my bid.

    Not to mention, it had some minor damage. This is why I like my policy of 'trying out' sellers before buying a bunch from them.
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    That "cardboard protector" is a paper envelope. Many early copper collectors keep their coins in such holders.

    The coin has clearly been "worked on" and would not slab at PCGS or NGC.

    But what was the variety? It might have been worth it. For example this one is on ebay at the moment

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    They want 20K for it. I think that is too high but I could easily see $5K to $8K for it. As just a date, it isn't of much interest, but as a variety it is in high demand.

    I'm out of the running on the S-59 as well, I already have one.
     
  17. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    No bid from me either. And I agree with Condor about the coin.
     
  18. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Most everyone overgrades their own coins, it's just human nature. ;) Chuck is a professional numismatist and even he commonly overgrades but that's totally an opinion and we know what they say about opinions. :D The part that cannot be wrong is the attribution and Chuck has always been on the money when it came to that and I value that in a seller and respect a seller that gets it right. ;) Although, there are a few sellers I also respect that have boo-boo'd with attributing but I know that with those it was an honest mistake and on one, when I messaged him and told him what it really was, he let me know that the attribution was on the envelope and he didn't check it to make sure it was right, he just assumed it was and put down what was on the envelope and considering it was very similar, I could see how the mistake was made with just a quick glance. ;) I'm also guilty of making a mistake with attributing and that's also human nature. :D

    Ribbit :)
     
  19. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    That is not an S-59, it's a S-47 but I wouldn't pay $100 for it and I buy worn coppers all the time.

    http://www.largecents.net/husak/s47.jpg

    Ribbit :)
     
  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    We obviously disagree about the variety. I think the seller is correct and it IS an S-48.
     
  21. Irespire

    Irespire Senior Member

    Oh sure, I'm guilty of mildly overgrading a few coins at first glance also, definitely. Most likely because of poor knowledge of the series. By 'attributing', do you mean like cleaning, and whatnot?

    I can let missing light cleaning or being slightly off on grade slide easily, but the cleaning on this was pretty obvious and the grade was way off. The marks should have been also pretty obvious, and I would expect on a potentially $300 coin that someone would at least look at it for a minute. So yeah, maybe I just happened to get bad luck with him, but I really wasn't pleased.
     
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