Hi Everyone!! It's nice to see I'm not the only rooting through pocket change. I need someones help. I received back in some change from dinner the other night this peculiar penny. It has been struck numerous times and is uneven on the edges. I will post the pictures. I have never seen anything like this before. This one is the most screwed up coin I have ever come across. Thanks Shawna
to CoinTalk Shawna. If you crop your photos to get rid of the white space around them, they may show a large enough picture of the coin itself for us to see what you are talking about.
I removed the background. I don't know if it's any better since you can only put up to a 100kb file on here. Thanks Shawna
Shawna: I see what you are talking about, but think about it, you are showing the mistrike of the reverse on both the obverse and the reverse. How could this have been done? Simply put: not very likely. More likely, done outside of the mint. Hint: look to see if the letters around the figure of theLincoln memorial are reversed. Then, most likely it is a sandwich job. Simply put a coin between two others and hit with a hammer. Instand error, except that it is reversed. If it was a mint error, clashed dies, etc. then one side should show the obverse as a clash. Or, v-e-r-y unlikely, two coins stuck in the dies, were kept there and then your planchet was struck, but then, there would not be a nice strike on the original coin. I think definately outside the mint.
Still hard to tell from your pictures, but especially if there are reversed letters I agree with Treashunt - a sandwich job either with a manner as he suggests, or less commonly by putting the sandwich in a vise and tightening.
Looks like a "glue job". Glue was applied to each face, allowed to grow tacky, and another cent was pressed into it. That left an incuse (sunken) mirror-image impression of the design in the hardening glue.
Who would do something like that? I took it to coin shop that was ANA certified, and they told me that he would give me $500.00 for it. I thought it might be worth more, but you guys are saying that this was fabricated. I have seen error coins before, but these things make sense, unless someone at the mint had a really bad day, I thought I had something special!!! Oh well. Thanks Shawna PS I just got off the phone and the coin dealer told me that he has seen mint errors like this when the die breaks or overheats. I still don't know anything about this so I'm sure you guys are right. I never have any luck when it comes to finding rare stuff. Thanks Again.
Grab that $500-- real quick. Or first spend the $ and send it to ANACS, then if it is fake, sell it to the coin shop guy.
Run, do not walk, back to that dealer and collect $500. Unless they specialize in error coins you would surprised how little most dealers know about error coins. Rightttt. I'd like to hear his explanation of how a die breaking would result in multiple images and the designs from one side appearing on the other. And as for the die overheating, yes they do get hot from the striking, to maybe two to three hundred degrees. The metal won't even start to soften till around 1,500 degrees. I think we can ignore the overheat story as well.
Thanks for your help everyone. I don't know anything about coins, I just collect as a hobby. I will take it in again to see what he says. I'll let you know what happens.
Hey everyone I took the penny to another coin shop and the guys told me that it was a result of a die break and he has seen this before and gave me an appraisal of around $1500.00, but didn't offer to buy it. Do you guys think that these people don't know what they're talking about? Well, just wanted to let you know what's been going on. Where can I get a true assessment of this penny? Thanks Shawna
Shawana: $1500!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For a glue job? What town are you in, and do they buy coins by mail? (Just kidding.)
Sorry but you have a true assessment fromTreashunt,Conder 101, Roy, and Mike Deamond they are right. sorry but keep searching you will find and error coin some day good luck.
The pics are to small for me to say anything but send it to ANACS who will tell you if its a real error or not.
I lean more toward the look of a "glue job" as Mike suggests. It would be better to see a larger picture but the way there was a fluid motion of some material is easily seen around the date on the obverse. Coins that are glued together and then separated again look just like this. I find that one of the areas that dealers who don't specialize in errors much are most in error about is errors
