Sept. Sev. short COS II - patience and time

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  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    There is a sub-series of denarii from the eastern mints of Septimius Severus that is quite enigmatic. The style is not consistent with the COS II series and is more aligned with the IMP II series but until more evidence comes out it is impossible to definitively place them. It isn't even possible to link them all to each other. I chase after every example I can and have a database of every example I have been able to find. The following coin came up for identification on another board about three years ago. I assisted in identifying it and mentioned that I collect these. The owner of the coin has decided to part with it ans so two and a bit years on it now sits in my collection.

    Septimius Severus denarius

    Obv:– IMP CA L SE SEV PER AV COS II, Laureate head right
    Rev:– FORT R-D-DVC, Fortuna, seated left, holding rudder and cornucopia
    Minted in Emesa, A.D. 194-195
    References:– RIC -, RSC -, BMCRE -

    2.81g, 18.68mm, 0o

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    I will see if I can publish my findings on these online over the Christmas holidays.
     
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  3. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Just for context here are the two other reverses that I own from this obverse die.

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    My search for the other known reverse types (and other unknown reverse types continues). The three above examples are the only examples that I am aware of.

    The other reverse types are:-
    BONA SPES (2 examples - BM collection and Roma Auctions 2013)
    MINER VICTRIC (1 example - Rauch 2013)
     
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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Interesting obverse die-linkage. I hope other examples come to light over time and you can write up your findings.
     
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  5. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    There are 9 short obverse legend dies that I am aware of. I cannot yet prove that they are all linked but am building evidence on quite a few.
     
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  6. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Ill try and keep an eye out for any
     
  7. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Here are the other dies I know of:-

    IMP CA L SE SEV PER AVG COS II
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    IMP CA L SEP SEV PER AVG COS II
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    IMP CA L SEP SEV PER AVG COS II
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    IMP CA L SEP SEV PER AVG COS II
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    IMP CA L SEP SE_V PER AVG COS II
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    IMP CA L SE SEV PEVR (sic) AVG COS I-I
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    IMP CA L SEP S-EV PER AVG COS - II
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    IMP CA L SE SEV PER AG COS II
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  8. Jovian363

    Jovian363 Well-Known Member

    I think that this coin with the MINER VI-CTRIS reverse belongs to the same series. SS_MinerVictris.jpg
     
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  9. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    It does indeed. Many thanks for sharing that one.
     
  10. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    It shares an obverse die with the third example down in my post just above and is a very interesting reverse type and one I don't recall having seen before in this series.
     
  11. Jovian363

    Jovian363 Well-Known Member

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  12. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I am aware of that one and a couple of other similar example but none quite like yours.
     
  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I am most attracted to the reverse here showing the back side of the shield and arm holding it. I hope someday a fully sharp and clear example from this die will turn up. I'd like to see more clearly what they showed in the way of straps/handles. My Minerva is not part of this short group but shares the back of shield situation.
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  14. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Keep them coming
     
  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Septimius Severus 3.jpg
    SEPTIMIUS SEVERUS
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG COSII - Laureate head right
    REVERSE: FELICITAS TEMPOR - Grain ear between crossed cornucopia
    Struck at Emesa, 194-195 AD
    2.3g, 17mm
    RIC 374a
     
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