Seeing Stars and Arrows...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Bonedigger, Jan 23, 2006.

  1. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    I spent the majority of last night and today going thru and attributing my bust halves. Stars and Arrows are swimming before my eyes, LOL.. Here is what I believe is a VERY nice O-112, 1836. Notice the die break between the lower two arrows and the 2nd arrow being recut.

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  3. smb12321

    smb12321 New Member

    Are you a Photo Expert

    How in the world do you take such good pics of your coins? They are gorgeous and the detail is really outstanding. Congratulations - I just got my 1793 Wreath (AU58) typed the other day - I was so confused trying to do it myself.
     
  4. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    I just stand real still and hold my breath. A 1793 WOWZO!!!! Please post a picture.

    Bone
     
  5. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    it looks like the close up was taken using the magnifying glass in front of the camera lens trick. The unfocussed edges are the indicator.
     
  6. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    bone,
    I disagree with your attribution. The T/I alignment is not in line with what a o-112 would have, the I is way too far to the right. Do you have a picture of the recutting of Arrow 2 and the die crack between arrow 2 and arrow 3? or are you working from a description? The reason that I ask is because Arrow 2 of o-112 DOES have recutting, but it is above the arrowhead, not below (like yours) and the die crack on yours isn't in the same spot as the die crack on o-112 (yours is from the lower point of arrow 2 to the middle of the upperside of arrow 3, while the o-112 has a die break from the lower intersection of Arrowhead two and arrow two's shaft to arrow 3 at a point 1/3 of the way from the upper point to the front point of arrowhead 3).

    Anyway, from your pictures it looks to me like it is a O-119, but I can't see the minute detail that would confirm my attribution on your photos. I have circled the two places on your photo that would have the confirming details:
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    The upper right circle is where "[t]he first pale of gule 6 extends far into the azure (lines) and the second pale of gule 6 extends" [Peterson's "Ultimate Guide to Attributing Bust Half Dollars", p.286] slightly into the azure (lines).

    The lower left circle is where "[t]he tail feathers have two small spikes protruding into the left field. They can be very thin in late states." [Ibid., p. 287]

    Anyway, check those two spots, it may confirm my attribution. Either way, it is a beautiful coin!
     
  7. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    No, actually it's that custom lens I got from bugeye digital. Not the best in the world but it works.

    B
     
  8. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    ahhh, it's a nice picture, that acomplishes its goal. It was good enough to allow me to check and disprove the attribution.
     
  9. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Your correct, it's a 0-119. The PROs over at the "Bust Half Forum" came to that conclusion as well.

    B
     
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