Sear plate coin

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  1. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I recently bought Sear's Roman Coins and Their Values volume V. I have RIC, so I didn't need it but thought it would be good to complete the set. To my surprise I found a coin I own as a plate coin:

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    Sear worked with NFA for a while and many of his plate coins are ex NFA. This one was NFA auction XVI, Dec. 2, 1985, lot 547.
    AE24. 6.09 grams.
    HOC SIGNO VICTOR ERIS ("In this sign you will be victorious")
    Struck under Vetranio, March 25 - Dec. 25 350.

    This is an important early Christian type. For more on early Christian symbols on Roman coins, see
    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/Christian/ChristianSymbols.html

    RIC Siscia 282. Sear V 18203 this coin.

    This thread could go two ways. Show us early Christian symbols on coins, or show us plate coins!
     
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  3. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I only have one plate coin from Sear Byzantine 1262 of Justinian II
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    unless you count Late Roman Bronze Coins by Failmezger. Since he sold off his coins, I am certain I have more plate coins (about 130?) from that book than anyone. As I recall, there were several of yours there also. We won't show all of them, will we?
     
  4. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Very cool!
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    Constantius II imitation (Failmezger, Plate coin)

    Obverse: DN CONSTAN-TIVS PF AVG, Long-necked diademed cuirassed bust right
    Reverse: Blundered legend, soldier spearing fallen horseman, Phrygian helmet, sitting on ground, arm(s) up, II left.

    Size: 23.49 mm 6.g

    Failmezger 462aCS (This Coin)

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  5. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I have a few plate coins.



    Tiberius Dattari 103.jpg
    Egypt, Alexandria. Dattari. Tiberius, 14-37 Obol circa 19-20 (year 6), Æ 20.1mm., 5.67g. Laureate head r. Rev. TIBEPIOY Hippopotamus standing r.; in exergue, L Geissen -. RPC 5087 (this coin cited). Dattari-Savio Pl. 4, 103 (this coin).
    Brown tone, About Very Fine.
    From the Dattari collection.
    Naville Numismatics Aution 43, Lot 250 September 23, 2018


    Vespasian ric 773.jpg
    Vespasian (69-79). AR Denarius (18.08mm, 3.50g, 6h). Rome, AD 75.
    Obv: Bare head l. R IMP CEASAR VESPASIANUS AUG
    Rev: Pax seated l., resting l. elbow on throne and holding branch.
    PON MAX TRP COS VI
    RIC II 773 (this coin); RSC –. Extremely Rare variety, near VF.
    Ex Vecchi sale 13, 1998, 757.
    Ex: St Paul Antiques auction 7 Lot 285 June 11, 2017
    Coin depicted in the Wildwinds.com database.

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    Cunobelinus Centaur.c.AD8-41. Bronze unit. 16mm. 2.38g. Head left, CVNO[BELINI]./ Centaur right, TAS[CIOVANI F] around. ABC 2957, VA 2089, BMC 1968-71, S 336. CCI 02.1143 (this coin).VF, dark green patina. Ex J W Barratt collection, ex W Tatu collection.
    Purchased from Chris Rudd Nuismatics, August 20, 2018

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    ISLAMIC, Persia (Post-Mongol).Timurids. Timur (Tamerlane).AH 771-807 / AD 1370-1405. AR Tanka (28mm, 5.81 g, 10h). Citing Chagatai khan Mahmud. Bidlis mint. Undated, circa AH 795-807 / AD 1393-1405. Central Kufic legend:la ilah illa Allah,|Muhammad|[rasuluallah](There is no deity except God, | Muhammad | [is the messenger of God]); between the lines, Naskh legend:dariba|Bidlis(struck [at] | Bidlis); marginal Naskh legend, counterclockwise from top:Abu Bakr|['Umar]|['Uthman]|'Ali/ Naskh legend:al-sultan|Mahmud Khan,|amir (three annulets) Timur|Kurkan khallada|Allah mulkahu(Sultan | Mahmud Khan | amir (three annulets) Timur | Kurkan may God perpetuate his reign). SICA 9, –; Album 2386; Zeno 40460 (this coin). VF, toned, flat strike. Very rare.
    From the BRN Collection.
    For the beginning of date of this issue at Bidlis, see Diler, Mints, p. 256, n. 4343.
    EX: CNG 409, Lot: 851 November 8, 2017.


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    Egypt, Alexandria. Dattari. Vespasian, 69-79 Diobol circa 70-71 (year 3), Æ
    ( 26.5mm., 9.15g.)
    Obv: Laureate head r.
    Rev. Bust of Isis r.; in front, LΓ. RPC 2430 (this coin cited). Dattari-Savio Pl. 14, 382 (this coin).
    Brown tone. Very Fine.
    From the Dattari collection.
    Naville Numismatics Auction #30, Lot 283, April 02, 2017.
    Coin depicted in the Wildwinds.com database.

    A Pius diobol Dattari.jpg
    Egypt, Alexandria. Dattari. Antoninus Pius, 138-161 Diobol circa 151-152 (year 15), Æ 22.5mm., 7.45g.
    Obv: Laureate bust r., drapery on l. shoulder.
    Rev. Agathodaemon erect, crowned with skhent; in field, L-E.
    RPC Online 15718 (this coin).
    Dattari-Savio Pl. 162, 3066 (this coin).
    Good Fine.
    From the Dattari collection.
    Ex: The Hunterian, University of Glasgow
    Ex: Naville Numismatics Auction 34, Lot 281 September 17, 2017

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    John (1199-1216), Penny, class VIa2, London,
    Walter, walter · on · lvn, 1.40g/4h
    (SCBI Mass 1755, this coin; N 974/2; S 1353).
    Good fine, dark-toned
    J.D. Brand Collection [from Baldwin October 1960];
    J.P. Mass Collection, Part I, DNW Auction 61, 17 March 2004, lot 355 (part);
    J. Sazama Collection, Part I, DNW Auction 93, 26 September 2011, lot 1140 (part)
    The collection of the late ray Under
    DNW Auction Coins tokens and Historical Medals September 18-20 2018, lot 192.
     
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    When Henry Clay Lindgren got up in years, he sold off his collection in a series of buy-or-bid sales by mail from his company, Antioch Associates. I purchased a few coins this way from him, including two plate coins from his first book.[1] Here are those:

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    Domitia, Augusta AD 82-96.
    Roman Æ 17.3 mm, 3.15 gm, 7 h.
    Ionia, Smyrna.
    Obv: ΔΟΜΙΤΙΑ ΑΥΓΟΥΣΤΑ, bare-headed and draped bust right.
    Rev: ΣΜΥΡΝΑΙΩΝ, Nemesis standing left, plucking at chiton on her neck, bridle in left hand.
    Refs: BMC 309; ex-Lindgren I, 80-404 (plate coin).

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    Annia Faustina, 3rd wife of Elagabalus, Augusta, AD 221.
    Roman provincial AE 25.0 mm, 8.55 gm.
    Pisidia, Isinda, AD 221.
    Obv: ANNIAN FAVCTEINAN, bare-headed and draped bust right.
    Rev: [ΙΣ] ΙΝ ΔΕΩΝ, Confronted heads of Serapis and Isis, in field, E-Delta (yr. 4 ).
    Refs: Ex Lindgren I A1322A, ex von Aulock, Pisidia I 833 (Plate coin for both references).

    I also have a plate coin from Houghton:[2]

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    Laodike IV, wife and sister of both Seleucus IV and Antiochus IV.
    Selucia in Pieria, 175-164 BC.
    AE 3.33 gm; 15 mm.
    Obv: Veiled bust of Laodike IV, r.
    Rev: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ (of King Antiochus), elephant head l.; prow.
    Refs: Houghton, CSE 113 (plate coin); Forrer 183.

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    1. Lindgren, Henry Clay, and Frank L. Kovacs. Ancient Bronze Coins of Asia Minor and the Levant from the Lindgren Collection. Chrysopylon Publishers, 1985.

    2. Houghton, Arthur. Coins of the Seleucid Empire from the Collection of Arthur Houghton. The American Numismatic Society, 1983.
     
  7. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Valentinian, Nice score ;). The black & white photo in Sear's book shows more detail than your photos but there is no doubt your coin is #18203, the edge splits match up perfectly. I scored the follis pictured below, AD 300-303, many years before I bought the series of David Sear's ROMAN COINS AND THEIR VALUES. The coin is pictured in volume IV, page 111.
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  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I won't trot out my umpteen Dattari and Dattari-Savio plate coins again but one is worth bringing up since the topic involves Sear's RCV.

    Recently, @Valentinian found that my Domitian Snake cowboy diobol, is a plate coin in Sear Vol. 1 (Sear RCV I 2868, page 511)! I don't have that book yet but should buy it. Meanwhile, could someone who owns the book send or post a picture of that page? To my knowledge it is my only Sear plate coin.

    The coin is also illustrated in Emmett... twice... which is very notable because there are so few coins illustrated in Emmett. The portrait is used for the beginning of the Domitian section and both sides of the coin are shown in a special inset about the type.

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    EGYPT, Alexandria. Domitian
    Regnal year 10, CE 90/91
    Æ diobol (25mm, 10.86 g, 12h)
    Obv: AVT KAICAP ΔΟ ΜΙΤ CEB ΓΕΡΜ, laureate head right
    Rev: Agathodaemon serpent, wearing the skhent crown (emblematic of upper and lower Egypt), on horseback galloping left; L I (date) below
    Ref: Köln –; Dattari (Savio) –; K&G 24.109; RPC II 2585; SNG Copenhagen 214; Emmett 277.10 (R5).
    Provenance:
    Ex Giovanni Maria Staffieri Collection
    Ex West Coast/Lloyd Beauchaine Collection (Classical Numismatic Group 41, 19 March 1997), lot 1110
    Ex Classical Numismatic Review Vol. XVI, No. 1 (January 1991), lot 31
    Ex Numismatic Fine Arts Fall Mail Bid Sale (18 October 1990), lot 2365

    Appearances:
    Staffieri, Alexandria In Nummis 39 (this coin)
    Emmett, Alexandrian Coins; obverse illustrated as the header for the Domitian section, p. 24 (this coin) and fully illustrated on p. 26 as a featured (this coin)
    Sear, Roman Coins and Their Values, Vol. I, #2868, p. 511 (this coin)
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/so-these-exist-snake-cowboys.314032/

    I have a smattering of plate coins from other books.
     
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2019
  9. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

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  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Thanks, RC! :)

    The prices made me laugh. I paid a bit more than the value written at the time of that volume's publication :D.
     
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  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    In all fairness, the listing itself is for the horse galloping right, year 11 version. Maybe those are less pricey than yours.
     
  12. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I've showed this one to death, but since it's a Sear plate coin...

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    MARK ANTONY
    AR Denarius. 3.61g, 17.8mm, Patrae (?) mint, autumn 32 - spring 31 BC. Sear RCV Vol. 1 p. 284, 1483 (this coin illustrated); Crawford 544/8. O: ANT AVG above Praetorian galley right, III VIR R P C below. R: CHORTIVM PRAETORIARVM, Legionary eagle (Aquila) between two standards (signa).
    Ex Stack's Sale (December 2001), Lot 142; Ex Ponterio & Associates Sale 108 (August 2000), Lot #307; Ex Gerhard Hirsch Auction 179 (21 Sep 1993), Lot 770

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  13. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    I am told this is a Varbanov plate coin...
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    Gordian III
    Region, City: Moesia, Markianopolis
    Coin: Bronze Pentassarion
    AYT K M ANT ΓOΡΔIANOC AYΓ - Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Gordian right, facing draped bust of Serapis wearing kalathos.
    UP MNOFILOU MARKIANOPOLITW - Triumphal arch or city gate with three portals, surmounted by three statues. E in doorway.
    Mint: (AD 238-240)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 12.21g / 28mm / -
    References:
    • Varbanov 1945
     
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  14. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I thought I would check since I had my Varbanov books beside me. Not the same coin, but the same dies, I think.

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  15. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Thanks for clearing that up for me Z :)
     
  16. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    Sweet coins, errbuddy!

    @Valentinian, I just want to say that your page on Christian symbols on ancient coins is one of my favourite webpages. I use it to build my wish list for my sub collection of Roman coins.

    Fabulous work!

    Erin
     
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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    PLATE COIN from a CT Member:

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    Campania
    AE
    Apollo-Achelous
    275-250BCE
    SNG ANS 474
    Ex: A random shooting in an auction...
    @@Nicholas Molinari 15-June-2016 stated: "Your ... coin is a plate coin in Potamikon, number 343 in our catalog so Sambon 663; Taliercio IIIa.16; MSP I, 343, featuring Acheloios Sebethos as a man-faced bull. Taliercio cited three examples of this type, so yours is the fourth known of that particular variety."


    DATTARI

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    RIAlexandria
    Livia, wife of Augustus
    Diobol CE 1-2 Æ 23.5mm 7.46g.
    Rev. Athena holding Nike Sheild
    ex Dattari-Savio Pl. 3 60-this coin RPC pag. 692-5-this coin
    RARE
     
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  18. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    I have a Sear plate coin as well. It was unpedigreed when I purchased it and then I kept running into it:

    “The History and Coinage of the Roman Imperators” (page 242, coin number 394)

    “Gold Coins of the World” (page 41, 7th edition)

    “Ancient Coin Collecting III (page 43) and Ancient Coin Collecting (page 20)” by Wayne G Sayles, 2nd Edition

    "Julius Caesar and His Legacy" – (full page image on xv and as coin 23, published by NFA in 1991)

    “Leo Biaggi de Blasys’ Complete Collection of Roman Gold”

    Ex. Jameson Collection

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  19. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    I have a number of "plate coins" But this one is a bit of a mystery. It is number 718 in the book " Coins of the Seleukid Empire From the Collection of Arthur Houghton" Published by the ANS in 1983. (no 4) I bought it from a Canadian collector. What I would like to know is what auction did Houghton consign this coin to. SKdemetriosII-2.jpg
     
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  20. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    The following coin (that I no longer own) is depicted in RIC Volume VI, Plate 1.

    RIC VI, Londinium, No. 63a, Severus, Caesar of the West:
    CT (Cloke & Toone), No. 4.02.019, 1 May 305 - 26 July 306, Rarity: S

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    SEVERVS NOBILIS C ........................................ GENIO POPV -- LI ROMANI

    Fully silvered but pitted.
    Draped, laureate, bust.
    11.3 gm.




     
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  21. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Ancient Joe, That's a gorgeous coin :jawdrop:! I'm not surprised it's gotten so much exposure...
     
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