I've been meaning to ask this for some time, but haven't had the time. The Satin Finish coins the mint started putting in mint sets from '05 forward, how do most on Coin Talk regard them? Would people have preferred they continue the business strikes, or glad they started using these instead? Personally I would have preferred they continue with the business strikes. Do any of you use these as a P or D in say a coin album instead of the business strike P or D? Does anyone collect these by themselves outside the mint sets ( I'm referring to like doing a collection of Jefferson Nickel or Lincoln Cent consisting of only the Satin Finish coins). Has it affected the business strike coins to be graded in lower grades, or the number of higher grades fewer? Do these Satin Finish usually grade higher in more significant numbers than their business strike counterparts? And last do the TPG companies list them in their slabs as satin finish?
Hey Larry, I like the Satin finish coins. They are much better looking IMO. Nicer strikes too. For my books, I only have satin finish coins, but for my slab set, I collect both. Business strikes are definitely the tougher of the two to find in the higher grades.
They do list them as satin. Most of the PCGS registry sets use them because there are very few high grade business strike coins (that has turned these registry sets into a bit of a joke). High grade business strike clad coins came from the mint sets in the past now they come from those mint roll and for dimes and some years of nickels the only place to get them is from the bank. try getting new dimes and nickels from the bank (good luck). The satin coins are suffering from the problem of having too many high grade coins, all of them are ms67 +. Looky here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330382115403&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123 to get an idea of what is up with high grade business strikes. Now look here: http://cgi.ebay.com/2006-P-D-Roosev...mQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item230427d60e
I really like the idea - zoom back to 1982 and 1983 when there were no mint sets. We're basically in that operational mode now. Or even 1965-67. It'll be interesting to see how this satin vs. business strike issue will settle down in the next 20-50 years. I also like the fact that it levels the playing field for everyone - it's about the same for everyone to find HQ business strikes - you don't need to have a fat bank account.
Why is that a problem ? On the contrary, I see it as a benefit, to collectors anyway. Never before in the history of US collecting could collectors count on geting high grade coins in the annual Mint Sets. Now they can, that seems like a good thing to me.
I don't like them as well at all because they do not seem to have those crisp strong I don't like them as well at all because they do not seem to have those crisp strong strikes I like. They are nice but seem to have more of a rounded type details, kind of shallow.
By special do you perhaps mean to say valuable ? I look at the satin Mint Sets kind of like modern Proof Sets. It is common for them to all to grade PF69 DCAM with a few going under that and a few going over that. Thus they are not valuable because it is so common to find them in such a grade. Same thing can be said about the satin finish coins. Most will grade MS67 or higher, even 69's are getting to be common whereas with a regular business strike a 69 is all but unheard of and even 67's are downright scarce. You really can't compare the 2 because they are completely different animals.
I saw something on TV the other the night I consider "shady" at best. They were selling state quarter sets to include the '09 quarters. All were in frames, it was a set of P's and a set of D's. It incuded the Mariana Island quarters, and the only way it could have been there was to be satin fininsh from a mint set. This was a week or two prior to the bags and rolls being released. The were advertised as BU. Do many people mix the satin finish with the business strikes?
