rust clean

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by wazzappenning, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. wazzappenning

    wazzappenning Member

    i have some canadian nickles in a bag. quite a few are 1952-53 ish, the wartime save nickle era when they were tin(i believe) plated steel.
    anyway, i dont know how or why, but some moisture must have gotten into the bag somehow and now i have rust stains on just about every coin in the bag ( nickle ones as well)
    so the questions are
    1 how do you acceptably clean rust off of coins
    2 is a light coating of oil acceptable on these types of coins

    if the answer to 2 is yes i cant help to say wd 40 as it would help in removing the rust. and would leave a film on them. only problem is i dont know what the long term effect of it would be. would it keep eating the steel. or peel the plating off eventually?
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    #1 - you don't. While there are several things that will remove rust none will do so in such a way that coin will be unharmed. And if it is indeed rust then the coin is already damaged, and once damaged it's damaged forever.

    2 - no it isn't.
     
  4. y2kkoinking

    y2kkoinking New Member

    should not clean but if desperate snow bowl and cotton NOT RECOMENDED BUT WILL WORK >> THIS WILL BE DAMAGE ALL ORIGINAL FINISH DO SNOW BOWL FAST AND POLISH>> warning do not recomend DESPErate measures only IREPEAT DO NOT ATTEMPT
     
  5. y2kkoinking

    y2kkoinking New Member

    "wizzing" coins means you make THEM TRASH with chemical or other forms of cleaning
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No, whizzing means that you take a rotating wire brush and brush the entire surface of the coin. And that's the only thing it ever means.
     
  7. wazzappenning

    wazzappenning Member

    yuck, i dont want to kill them. just want the rust off. in that bag is my bunny nickle. i know its not worth much but it is a different coin which i like.
     
  8. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Once they are rusted they are already damaged. But nothing will remove that rust without causing further damage.

    Since thecoins are already damaged, I see nothing wrong with a light film of mineral oil to prevent firther degradation. If you want to remove it later an acetone dip and rinse would remove it.

    If they weren't rusted then rather a than oil I would recommend a cool dry environment.
     
  9. wazzappenning

    wazzappenning Member

    acetone dip. thats the one i saw someone say was acceptable. but i usually leave them as i found them unless its gunk i cant see through. then i wipe it off with my t shirt. i know thats bad.
     
  10. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Yep, rust (Iron Oxide) is a VERY difficult problem. Anything you use will affect the surfaces negatively.

    However, if you're determined, I suggest soaking in a weak solution of a chelating agent like EDTA. That's about as mild as you can get, but the surfaces will still become dull.
     
  11. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    From my understanding glass wool was the most commonly used whizzing material.
     
  12. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns


    Xylene would be a better choice to remove oil. It's not very soluble in acetone.
     
  13. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    Naval Jelly
     
  14. wazzappenning

    wazzappenning Member

    thanks for the tips. whats naval jelly? lol, i could read too much into that.
     
  15. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    Its a rust remover...
     
  16. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    ....but it's very corrosive in itself.
     
  17. wazzappenning

    wazzappenning Member

    ahh thank you. i think i will try something else. i had an idea though. how do you find rustable coins in you pocket with no rust? because all the stuff on it wore off in your pocket. on bills, pants material, other coins, and of course the magnetic stripe on your credit card. maybe the answer is carrying them around in your pocket for a week. of course there will be more damage to the coin.
     
  18. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    , Mainly phosphoric acid, but also are some soft drinks.... yes, if you are short of naval jelly, use some Coke (tm).
    but not on coins.
     
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