Russian middle Ages identification

I have two old coin from Russia, but I don't know anything about them: denomination, value etc...

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Its Russian "wire money" from around 1500-1650. There are a few here very knowledgable on these, so I am confident you will get a good answer.

They are interesting. They literally were struck out of silver wire as low value silver coins.

 

The first one is a kopek of Michail Fedorovich Romanov (1613-1645).

 

I can't even read anything on the second coin - good luck. I literally have piles of these coins for some reason. There are rare coins from Novogorod and Pskov that are earlier and that I would like to find nice example of, outside of Russia where prices are too high.

 

I suppose that the second one is a kopek of Ivan IV for Pskov.