I posted pictures of the six Roman Coins I found here in New York. You may have to go to Kman413 to get a look at them. I'm not sure how to move them around on this site. Regards, Kman413
Like to see your Roman coins This thread describes how to post photos: http://www.cointalk.com/t8565/ Basically, you go to ADVANCED and select MANAGE ATTACHMENTS and select the photo files on your computer & UPLOAD & DONE.
O. K. I think I got the idea. you can see my gold coins at Kmans Dug Coins. This is my lastest coin from the same site. You can't believe all the different coins coming out of this site. I must have been a church or fair grounds.
here are the pictures. Only five can be displayed. You can see all my coins I posted on Kman413. Or go to youtube.com Enter "Treasure Hunt America.Ep 111 part 2. And you will see all the items I donate and have found over the years. These machines pay for themselfs in no time. Regards, Steve Kelly
They look like Ptolemaic or Seleucid silver tetradrachms. Since these are fairly rare to find in the middle east, I am wondering if they are authentic. To have an assortment of such large span of years, I am guessing that either they are cast copies, (fairly commonly faked coins), or it was someone coin collection. We might be able to tell if you took one of them, weighted it, gave us diameters, and many close up photos, including the edge. Chris
Hi, I'm a professional relic hunter. I have a vast library on artifacts from the Revolutionary, & Civil Wars. Plus items used during this period. When I found the coins. First I new they were silver because my metal detector I.D. the coins as Size- Quarter, Metal- Silver. On the plus or minus scale -95 to +95 the scale was +95. I then took the coins to the biggest coin store on Long Island, Rubenstien Coin. Located in Bayshore, L.I. Mel Rubenstein was a personal friend of mine. He authentitate the coins, He was impressed with the find and wanted to send to a friend of his. Who is a professional coin collector for this period. When I rececived the coins back, they were in a plastic frame. Each coin is marked with the name and date. All done in gold leaf, The coins were on display at Rubinstein's store for about two years. Also, Treasure's Unlimitied, Patchogue, L.I. A very well known Metal Detector Distriburtor. If you would like to see the coins in my hand go to Youtube. com "Treasure Hunt America Ep 111 part 2 Here are the coins in the frame. Regards, Steve Kelly
Hi, Also I would like to add. I live in Maspeth, New York. Settled in 1635. I wrote a story on the "Roman Coins" for Treasure Lost & Found. Were I live there are 29 cemetries located here. In 1870 a law was pasted that no more burials could take place in New York City. What was to be known as the "Cemetary Expressway". All the graves that were not in church yards were removed and brought here to Maspeth. The Mapatchie Indian name for Maspeth is "Place of bad water". You can read this on a site "Juniper Berry" a local newsletter. If you can't find it, contact me and I will send you the Wed Site. Back to the coins, in my story I explained what I think happened to the coins. From 1635 to the present many people came from other counties, they brought with them many items and there were no banks. But you can be sure there were thiefs. So, it was common for them to bury their expensive items. Back then, a simple cold could kill you. Or they just became old and forgot about them. If you read my sites. I found two gold coins in an old milk jar. One twenty dollar & one ten dollar coin. I've been hunting for over twenty years and have found many items all up & down the East coast. So of the best coins I found were on the East side of New York were the tentaments are, These are 6 & 8 family houses. They used to run a wash line across the yards to dry the wash. Many a coin, ring, or other great item fell from the pockets. I found Civil War tokens, silver coins and a few gold coins over the years. I hope this gives you an idea what those guys & girls are doing wearing headphones and swinging a metal detector. And I didn't even touch on the beach finds. That's another story. Regards, Steve Kelly
Well I cannot see the writing on the display sir, but rest assured these coins had nothing to do with the Roman Empire. They are not Roman in any fashion. If they are genuine, they are near eastern Greek, probably Tetradrachms. You state on your video that maybe immigrants brought them over, but these had not been in circulation in Europe for 2000 years. If anything, they were from someone's coin collection. Again, I cannot authenticate them since I cannot see them close up. If you sent them to an ancient expert, he should have cleaned them up. Having horn silver, (if that is what is on these causing them to be dark), is not helping them in the holder. You may have a vast library of early American artifact references, but many of us here have large libraries just on ancient coins. That is why we post here. Chris
This must be killing you that someone finds a few coins that you wish you had. I found and donated more items to historical homes and the Sisters of Charity here in N.Y.then you could count. My friend did explain what the coins were. And they were examined by a real expert. He took the time and money to create a frame for the coins. I work with Historical Society's here in N.Y. and traveled to other states to locate historical sites. I was on the cover of Treasure Magazine, did Ad's for White's Metal Detector Co. and I might add I did this for free. I was asked to do the T.V. show because I'm well known as a professional relic hunter. You get out of life what you put into it. I don't go to the store and buy my coins. If you read the followup I sent you. I said that people came here from Europe and probably brought them here. They may not have been in circulation for 2000 years, But there were people who made them. And if you know so much about ancient coins. You must know that there are thousands found throughtout Europe over the years. Before you go knocking people, do your home work and get a life. STeve Kelly To a person like you who lives in a small world, and thinks you know everything. I can tell you. These coins mean nothing to me. They are just a very small part of a collection of items I've recovered over the years. And please don't drag other members down to your level. Like me, we show our coins and other items as team players. As for your library on ancient coins, It's one thing to own books. Now you should try reading them.
Perhaps you should try reading what is written on the coin display you presented. I actually took the time to pause and analyze the part of the video where you present this collection. Some of the coins are labeled as various "kingdoms", which even a non-ancient collector like me knows that isn't Roman. Also I can make out what appears to be "Seleukid" under one of the coins.
Really..... You come here bragging about "Roman Coins" and then postulating crazy theories about how they MAY have come to NY like you are an expert in coins. I give you some real facts, and explain circulation patterns and the fact these weren't circulating coinage anymore so if brought over they were brought as collectibles already, and you jump on me? I was simply saying they were not Roman at all, trying to help you. A man going around showing Greek silver coins bragging about "Roman coins" looks like an idiot. That is why I was concerned if they were authentic because clearly you know absolutely nothing about ancient coins. Saying you took them to a large coin dealer in LI does not impress me in the slightest that they know what they are doing. I do not know their ancient coin credentials. If you would have taken them to the ANS or an ancient firm in Manhattan I would have never brought the subject up. As for me "doing my homework and getting a life", or "it's one thing to own books. Not you should try reading them", or "it must be killing you that someone finds coins I wish I had", why are you attacking me? First, I could give a rip about your coins, they don't interest me as I collect other areas of ancients, but I own a few. Second, I read my library constantly, how else do I know in one second that you know nothing about ancient coins because these are not Roman in any form. You just join this board, and the first person who responds to your pictures you attack as being just a jealous, illiterate, "thinks he knows it all", idiot on the subject of ancient coins? I am sorry Mr. Kelly if you believe I was slighting you, but I believe if you read my posts you will see I was simply trying to help. You are a new member here, I have been here and posted thousands of times helping others with my "lack of knowledge". I think I will just go back and maybe try reading one of my books. Chris
You have the lack of knowledge correct. I never said I was a collector of coins or an expert. I do know I was metal detectng and the machine sounded, the screen read Size Quarter, Metal Silver, +95 posistive. Depth 9 inches. I dug a hole and inside were the six coiins. Again, I had two real experts check the coins. The names of each coin are on the frame. To me they could be chinese. They are no big thing. I do not collect coins. I found two Gold coins not long ago. They all go into my granddaugthers hope chest with the other collectables we save for her. God has been good to me and my family. I have all the money i will ever need. I give away more then you make. You may think you are "Lord and Master of Cointalk". But that's not true. You are just a member like the rest of us. So try and change your attiude. And maybe someday someone will take you serious. No Merry Christmas for you. Mr stephen P. Kelly P.S. I see you posted 4,404 post. But you don't support Cointalk. All talk, No action
No need to project negative attitudes or be mean I dont think medoraman was trying to offend, and I'm not sure why you took offense. A million reasons for how those coins ended up where you found em. Still a cool find. Feel free to donate them to me.
I appreciate your kind words on Medoraman behalf. But to call me an idiot because I called my coins Roman. When I made it clear that I did not collect coins. And to all but call me a liar about having the coins checked by an expert. Rubenstien Coin Located on Long Island is one of the biggest coin dealer in New York. And he did ask if he could send the coins to a friend of his to see them. Rubenstein coin had the coins on display for over two years. And then they when to my friends store Treasure's Unlimited for about another two years. They were no big deal to me. They were in a frame and are marked who is who when I receive them back. To me. They are just another couple of coins I found. I can assure you I don't need the money. I don't even know what they are worth. All I remember is that four are common and two are rare.One of the rare coins is as follows. Cleopatra & Antiochus v11 Mother & Son 125-121 B.C. Seleukid Kingdom The other coins are Selsukos V1 Ptolemy Epiphanes Nikator The Ptolemeaic Kindom of Egypt 11 285-246 B.C. Ptolemy v Ephiphanes ( No Date ) Antichus 111 223-187 B.C. Seleukid KIngdom Alexander ( No Date ) ptolemy X Alexander (No Date) On the top on the frame they put Ancient Tetradrachms Found Metal Detecting By Steve Kelly Using a White's Metal Detector Now please take into concideration, I never used this site. I tried and send a donation because I thought there were people who showed their coins and other finds. I even contacted David and told him I had no idea how to use this site. But to keep the donation. A few people helped me find my way around. One who was interested in metal detecting. Your friend does not know who I am. I am well know as a relic hunter. I do it for the adventure. We research and located all the forts located in New York City. Four are built over. One in still an empty lot, or I should say part of it. We located Revolutionary camps across the Hudson River in Garrison New York where Washinton had cannon positions protecting West Point. I never intended anyone to think I was bragging about my adventures. I have the money and the time. I travel when ever I get a tip on a site. First we locate the area then we contact the local metal detector clubs. And ask permission to come down and do a hunt with them. I donate almost everything that has historical value. As for beach hunting. On any warm day in the summer, there are thousands of people at Coney Island, Rockaway. and Reese Park. I've been doing this for twenty years or more. I found diamond rings, braclets, earing. charms. coins. guns knifes. You name it I'm sure someone found it. I'm really not a bad person. I work for the church here in Maspeth, I never turned my back on anyone who needed help. When peop;e have a problem they come to me. And I do my best to make things wright. Again, thank you for your kind words. I have nothing against Medoraman. I made a mistake in not being accurate about the coins. But I didn't even think it would manner. I have a load of D.V.D's on items I found over the years. I speak at metal detector clubs. And I never had a problem. Actullay most people like me. I think you are right. This is just a misunderstanding. And please offer my apology on my behalf. Thank you again, And Merry Christmas two both of you Regards, Mr stephen p. Kelly P.S. I typed the coins in order by I don't know what they will look like when you received this message
Just to be clear sir, you posted photos of coins on here that were fuzzy that are fairly heavily faked, that is why I said, "if they are authentic". Then I informed you that they were Greek, not Roman. Later when explaining I was trying to help you learn the proper vocabulary I said it was, "because someone who calls greek coins Romans looks like an idiot". It was my reasoning to try to help you know the difference in the first place. I was not trying to call you an idiot. Then all of the further slanders towards me, whatever. Point is sir, you do not know ancient coins, the dealer you mentioned does not to my knowledge have a reputation as to knowing ancient coins, and there are many dealers in theis country who do not know them, but think they can "authenticate" them. That is why I was simply trying to authenticate them myself, to help YOU. I would not send to CNG, (the worlds largest ancient coin company), a 2010 US error coin, its not their specialty. Similarly I will not trust a local coin dealer whose 99.99% of their inventory is US and bullion coins to authenticate a highly faked ancient. If they have more expertise than that I apologize, but I have been to every major show in the US and have never met them. "Coins" is a huge field. Would you trust a Roman artifact specialist to properly catalog a colonial era artifact you find? No, you wish to find a colonial era specialist, right? Btw for many months I have been a paying member here, whatever that is worth since you seemed to wish to call me out on that as well. You are not required to put "Supporter" if you donate to this site. Its the internet sir, you would be wise to limit your assumptions of others here until you get to know them. There are a few here that if they say a coin is good or bad, I believe them since their knowledge is vastly superior than mine, and I have been collecting coins 35 years. Anyway, I am willing to just bury the hatchet. I think you will find this site an excellent resource to learn more information on all of your coin finds. Merry Christmas, Chris
I've got a question out of curiosity, do many people ask if you found anything while you are metal detecting, I get asked that frequently but when asked, I usually say I am only finding pennies when in truth, I find something somewhat worthwhile. Do you do the same?
Not a good idea here in New York City. It's best to say," I just got here". This is only a coin machine. Always keep a bottle cap or quarter in your hand. Then if you do find a ring or other good hit, palm the ring and throw the bottle cap to the side. Another thing, on the beach work from the high tide mark down. Best to start at hight tide. Walk along the beach for 1/4 mile or more and then turn around and start back. The tide will be going out just about the same rate as you walk. Keep doing this. When you get a hit. Use your scoop and check the hole. If it is in the scoop don't shake it on the beach if there is a large number of people watching. Walk into the water and drain the scoop, if it's a good hit. Don't take it out. Throw the bottle cap and continue walking with the item in your scoop. When clear, reach in and pocket it. Keep only coins in your apron. Remember,Your machine only finds coins. Little children are the worst. I found a sliver chain on the dry sand, It was hanging from my scoop. This little boy about 5 years old yelled out" He found a chain. In seconds, there was a crowd and everybody wanted to see the chain. Of course, three claimed it was theirs. I just turned and kept walking. They are not going to do anything with a beach full of people watching. I really never had an trouble with the people I meet metal detecting. Some want to try the machine, no problem. It's better to be nice then to maybe insult someone. New York beaches are gold mines in the summer. I use a White's Surf Master. It's a pulse induction machine. Very deep but the is no meter. After a while you get use to the sound. I dig everything. Scoop the spot, throw the sand to the side. Check the hole and the sand just dug. One will have the target. Remember to wear an apron and keep all junk and coins only inside. The good stuff you pocket. I also locate items lost on the beach. Check with the Life Guards, people sometimes go to them when they loose items. They all know me and have given me some great tips on locations on loss rings etc. I hope this helps you. You should subscribe to "Western & Eastern Treasure Magazine". It's all about metal detecting. Some great stories and finds are found in it's pages. Regards, Steve Kelly
