hi guys i'm new to this site i 'm wondering about these coins how it's worth it's too old and maybe it's from roman arc first coin second coin 3rd coin
Fake IMO. The coloring of the coins, the style of the lettering (too thin), and the rims of the coins all look wrong.
I agree. Sorry but the photos do look like cast fakes, and the first coin is a very heavily faked coin especially. It is Judea Capta with Vespasian. I have seen about 100 fakes for every real example of the coin. Look very carefully at the edges. You will see either a casting line all the way around, or file markings eliminating the casting line. If you want to know how we can know from photos, there are other tell tale signs, like softness in recessed fields where there should be detail, pitting, (ait bubbles), in the fields where it should be smooth, etc.
I agree with these guys. Sorry, but the coins look fake. If you want to double check our assessment, you might want to post these on a forum dedicated to ancient fakes.
Actualy the colour is not that far of for coins that are made from Brass the lighting is not that good on them. Cant say if they are genuine or not but will move this to the Ancient forum
Most of the brass Roman coins I've seen have a chalkier color than these do. Of course, you're right -- the lighting can have a big effect.
While I agree 100% that these are fake, I will point out that a lot of the characteristics that people point out as diagnostic to fakes can appear on real coins that have been mistreated. Also, many fakes are mistreated in the hope they will be made to look old and bad enough they must be genuine. The fact is that you can't always be 100% certain but, as pointed out by several above, these are definitely modern products mistreated to make them deceptive and are usually seen sold outside the normal ancient coin trade in flea markets and at tourist sites. Medoraman made the best point regarding the Judea Capta. There are some coins that have been faked so often that a specimen is guilty until proven innocent. His number of 100 bad to 1 good is no exageration!
Word of note to anyone collecting ancient coins. You WILL be brought "treasures" or "family heirlooms" to evaluate if people know you collect. If it is related to Jewish history it will almost always be a copy, most likely a cast copy. I hear they were given out in cereal boxes in the 1960's, are all over the middle east and Israel, (tourist fakes), and all over Ebay now. You will tell them that these are forgeries, and they will call you a liar, that grandpa found these in 1910, that you are just trying to cheat them, etc. Its part of being an "expert" in ancient coins.
