Roma Wheel Aes Grave, Who likes big wheels?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by rrdenarius, May 17, 2019.

  1. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    I saw this coin offered in a recent auction and it haunted me. It is a great example of a cast coin: large (at 204 grams it is considered smallish), well cast (there are not a lot of features on this coin, but they are all there), good eye appeal, not much wear or environmental damage and old (Crawford says 265 to 243 BC and Vecchi says a bit later about 230 BC). The coin arrived this week and looks as good in hand as I had hoped.
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    Roman Republican AE Cast As, Roma/Wheel series, Rome, c. 265-242 BC.
    Obv - Head of Roma right, wearing Phrygian helmet with pinnate crest; behind, mark of value I, set horizontally.
    Rev - Six-spoked wheel; between two spokes, I.

    References, I have several for cast bronze.
    Cr, RRC 24/3 265 to 242 BC; wt std = 270 grams
    Gr, BMCRR -
    RSC / Bab - I could not find the coin in Babelon.
    BMC, Italy pg 53, #2, note I do not have this book
    T&V 31 269 to 240 BC
    Vecchi ICC 66 230 BC; Rome; wt std 270 grams
    Syd, CRR 59 8 – extremely rare
    Syd, AG 86 pl 11, #4
    Syd collection 112
    Sear, RCV 525
    HN Italy 326.
    Haeb. pl. 24,4-10; average weight of 44 examples = 271.31
    Garrucci T. XXXIX, #3
    Kircheriano T. VIII, #2

    204.48 grams
    66.0 mm
    12 H
    RR.
    A light example. Very rare. Lovely earthen emerald green patina. Good VF/About EF.

    Before I bought this coin, I did an internet search. I found several examples, 14. That is a lot for a coin listed as extremely rare. The weight data from internet searches is lower than the data from Haeberline. There were only two recent coins above Haeberline's average and five below his minimum.

    Data Internet Haeberline
    Weight, mine 204.4
    Weight - max 282.2 307.7
    Weight - min 204.4 228.2
    Weight - avg 239.7 271
    Weight - st dev 23.3
    Number 14 44
    Diameter - max 66
    Diameter - max 66.0
    Diameter - min 60.0
    Diameter - avg 61.8
    Diameter - st dev 2.2

    Grade, eem gVF
    Grade, seller gVF / EF
    Centering well centered
    Strike nice casting with good features
    Flan flaws none
    Style typical
    Patination I see brown, seller said emerald green

    Post your big wheels.
     
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Great As, Gene. I have Aes Grave denominations up to a Triens. My next Aes targets are an As and a Semis.

    Here is one of my Wheels. It is a “lowly” Quadrans, but weighs in at just shy of 60g.

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    ROMAN Republic
    Aes Grave Issue, Æ Quadrans, 59.82g
    Mint of Rome Anonymous issue; ca. 269-242 BCE
    Obv: dog walking left, three pellets below
    Rev six-spoked wheel, three pellets between
    Ref: Cr 24/6a; Thurlow-Vecchi 34
    Comments Dark green patina, fine.
    Ex: from the David Sellwood Collection
     
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  4. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    Wow, that's a big beautiful piece of bronze @rrdenarius !

    I wish I had a big wheel to post, but I did have one of these in the 70's...you'll not the rear wheel design is clearly similar to the as reverse.

     
  5. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    I had one too! That hand brake was super cool!
     
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  6. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    WOW fantastic, what a beast of a coin. Congrats.
     
  7. Limes

    Limes Well-Known Member

    Great coin! Must feel great too, in hand.
     
  8. octavius

    octavius Well-Known Member

    Beautiful coin! It's amazing to think that these were made when Rome was first struggling with Carthage.
    some of my wheels series... quad. , quad. , semis , As , triens , and Sextans.
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  9. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    Hunka, Hunka!! That's an awesome coin Gene.

    I'm not too familiar with this early cast "wheel" coinage, but I'm definitely going to make it a point to learn more.

    -d
     
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  10. Fugio1

    Fugio1 Well-Known Member

    I love these big cast early Roman coins. they are particularly impressive in hand. I've held them in my hand but never owned one. Thanks for sharing.
     
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  11. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Fantastic! Nice afghan underneath too. Your wife is a yarnaholic, if I recall? Did she make that?
     
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  12. Carausius

    Carausius Brother, can you spare a sestertius?

    That doesn't strike me as too surprising when you consider that buyers of aes grave (including museums) typically want the heaviest examples available It's part of the charm. Haeberlin's corpus is largely made up of examples from museums and major private collectors of the early 20th century, all of whom would probably favor heavy examples and might thereby skew the averages. This is similar to the tendancy of museum collections to include rarities - often making them seem more common than frequency in trade.
     
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  13. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    Yes, my wife is knitting that shawl. We are collecting addiction enablers. We attended the NYINC for two years when Vogue Knitting Live New York was the same week.
    She likes colorful yarns, most of the time. Two current projects, an Advent yarn set and one her favorite shirts.
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