Rethinking about folders.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by BATTERup646, Oct 27, 2015.

  1. BATTERup646

    BATTERup646 Active Member

    You see, i get Whitman folders. Although these books can withstand a nuclear bomb, they bend, and sometimes rip easily. I bought a folder in July and have only pulled it out of the shelf to look at it about 15 times, and the top of the spine bent a bit. Even earlier in May, i bought a folder from amazon that looked like it fell from a tower and landed on each corner. I don't throw it around like a barbarian, or put coins in/take them out often.
    I was thinking to moving to albums, but the cons are, they are too big, too expensive, and when you remove or replace a coin, the plastic scratches the coins, which isn't very great with high grade coins.
    As what another member did with his HE Harris folders, he framed them, and that caught my attention, however i have no wall space, let alone being in a shared room with a super fan. What do you think i should stick to?
    Thanks

    -John
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2015
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  3. BATTERup646

    BATTERup646 Active Member

    Done. Ignore this post.

    :bag:
     
  4. $ignofthedollar

    $ignofthedollar Well-Known Member

    I liked the framed book also. Wouldn't mind doing one myself.
     
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  5. BATTERup646

    BATTERup646 Active Member

    maybe when I'm older and get a house, but for now I'm stuck with a tiny shelf in the closet. (My avatar makes the post more intimidating, does it?) :woot:
     
  6. $ignofthedollar

    $ignofthedollar Well-Known Member

    Well, I do believe that Lincoln could have been a very intimidating sort of fellow.
     
  7. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    [QUOTE="BATTERup646, post: 2261502, member: 7593 What do you think i should stick to?
    Thanks-John[/QUOTE]

    Stick to beer - vodka makes you talk too much!! :smuggrin:
     
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  8. charlietig

    charlietig Well-Known Member

    Stick to beer - vodka makes you talk too much!! :smuggrin:[/QUOTE]

    That's gonna be tough being 13. LOL
     
  9. charlietig

    charlietig Well-Known Member

    I'm with you in this one but slowly and surely, I am making the transition over to Dansco Albums, they are just so much nicer then the Whitman/HE Harris Coin Albums but yes, they are much more expensive.
    That is why, for the time being, I have my Morgan's in a Dansco Album and as I upgrade my coins, the Albums will be bought as needed.
    Then again.... being 13... it can be difficult for someone your age.
     
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  10. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Intercept Shield albums come with a slip case.
    Additional protection.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    BATTERup646 - I'm going to give you, and anybody else willing to listen, a piece of advice here.

    While coin boards, folders, and albums, are one of the most popular methods for organizing, storing and displaying a collection they are also arguably the worst thing ever invented for coins. I say that because (and I'll just albums to cover them all) albums are responsible for damaging and or destroying more coins than just about any other single thing.

    First of all the vast majority of them are made of materials that are harmful to coins. From the sulfur laden cardboard, to the cardboard dust, to the glue that holds them together, to the plastic slides, to no protection from the elements, to the very act of putting coins into or taking them out of the albums - all of these things harm the coins.

    But even if you buy the albums made of archival materials, even those still have all of the other problems.

    People like albums because it makes it easy to organize your coins. But mostly they like them for their display properties - all of your coins are right there to see all nicely labeled and pretty looking.

    But that nice display comes at a cost, and a cost that cannot be avoided. What are the primary enemies of coins ? Air, moisture, and contact contaminants - and albums provide no protection from any of them. Quite the opposite in fact, they enhance these things. The albums don't keep any air out or limit it, or keep it away from the coins, even simple movement of the album causes air to be drawn in to the coins. The dry cardboard will attract, even draw moisture (humidity) out of the very air and put it into direct contact with the coins. And the contact contaminants are built right in to the albums. Any movement of the albums produces friction between the pages, and between the coins and the albums. That friction produces cardboard dust, and that dust gets on the coins. Any further movement of the album can cause that dust to hairline or scratch the coins, right along with the plastic slides. And yet collectors will gladly subject their coins to these things that will absolutely harm the coins - just because they like the way it looks.

    I just can't see the sense in that. Especially since there are options that remove all of those things.
     
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  12. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    GDJMSP, I won't disagree with you BUT you didn't specify any options.

    Slabs are my preferred method of storage but:
    -- that tends to be more expensive, and
    -- most coins don't merit slabbing.

    2x2's aren't designed for long term storage.
    Flips are't much better (plus the wrong ones will cause PVC problems).

    How about Airtites with appropriate pages in a 3-ring type binder?
     
  13. Mr. Coin

    Mr. Coin Member

    I use the coin world slabs for coins I don't want to get professionally graded. If something isn't good enough for the $2 holder, then it goes in a 2 x 2.
     
  14. BATTERup646

    BATTERup646 Active Member

    Your message helped a lot, i won't get albums. What about folders though? And would you recommend framing them in the near future?

    Thanks for your time
    -John
     
  15. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    He recommends Airtites. Takes him 3 paragraphs to do so but that's what he recommends. :)
     
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  16. BATTERup646

    BATTERup646 Active Member

    Are there folders for airtites?
    Another question for folder owners, did you remove that annoying paper? You know, with the advertisement? I kept it just in case.
     
  17. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Hmm... I wonder what would happen if you Google "airtite folder"? There's only one way to find out....
     
  18. BATTERup646

    BATTERup646 Active Member

    Recommendations.
    I was looking for Recommendations.
     
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2015
  19. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Hmph...

    Search function.

    Sorry, I had to do it. Seriously there are reviews on the forum for Air-Tite "albums." My caveat is while Air-Tites can be pretty cheap, they're much more "expensive" than flips and 2x2s and if you're going to go the Air-Tite route, buy them in bulk to save on shipping. You can get them online for about $0.65 each but shipping is usually around $9. If you only want one...well that's just silly. But if you buy 45 at once then there you go. I used to buy them from my local coin store (LCS) when I bought a coin, but then I moved far away (seriously...Korea) and my options became much more limited.

    If you're 13, how high of a grade coins are you buying? When I was 13 most of my money was squandered on useless junk like computer games and sodas - and I didn't have much! If you're plucking coins from circulation I see no problem with using folders or albums off the shelf. In fact I store my American Silver Eagles (ASE) in a used Dansco...but they're just bullion coins so I'm not very concerned with them being damaged by the sliding plastic or cardboard material it's made from.
     
  20. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    IF you are 13 then why does your profile say 18??
     
  21. BATTERup646

    BATTERup646 Active Member

    Look, What does not harms coins?
    Most plastic has PVC, air tites don't, but i can't put them anywhere.
    Folders get "cardboard dust" on the coins
    I inherited a lot of high grades. Sometimes i like to buy high grades, and low grades, so it differs. I want a attractive way to organize coins without damaging them.

    I'm looking for
    1. Beauty of the product
    2. Completely safe.
    3. Easy to Organize.
    4. Easy to use.

    Do you know any air tite albums/folders ( preferably albums ) That match these? Or do "Direct Fit Air-tite holders" fit in folders/albums. I don't want to ruin any coin, my Grandpa left me some awesome silver dollars, and i don't want to dull them.

    It says 13. Probably because of the small font, take another look. ;)
     
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