Request for information about coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by mr.j, Mar 18, 2018.

  1. mr.j

    mr.j New Member

    Dear list,

    Whilst metal-detecting I have found following coin:


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    It would be nice If we could get an opinion or comment on the origin of the coin.

    Many thanks,

    - J.
     
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  3. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    J - I don't think your coin is Roman. Other than that I am stumped.
     
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I agree with ACH-- not Roman, probably not ancient. Medieval, perhaps? Some medieval collectors hang out on this ancients forum. Maybe one of them will see this post and offer direction. Meanwhile, it is helpful to post the size and weight of your coin as well as the general location of the find.

    Here are the images cropped, lightened, and joined for ease of viewing. The reverse might be a knight riding a horse, heading left?

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  5. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    My inexpert opinion: It's saying 17th century Spain(ish?) to me. (I very much doubt it's earlier than 17th century, could be 18th.) But on a cursory search I can't find anything like it.
     
  6. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Changed my mind... I think it's Polish, Johann Casimir (1649-1668).
     
  7. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Looks to be a Lithuanian issue of Casimir, 1 solidus. But normally there would be a crown and date above the knight. Interesting... good luck on getting an exact ID, and post your results! :)
     
  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I think you're on to something!

    Maybe this, or one like it? I have no idea what denomination were struck or what they are called. Maybe the OP coin is smaller? Looks like the OP coin date ends in a 6, perhaps with a 6 before it, so given the years of reign possibly 1666?

    From ACsearch, London Ancient Coins, Auction N, lot 368 26.06.2014, sold for 7 GBP.

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    Poland-Lithuania, Johann Casimir (1648-1668). ’ Schilling (15mm, 1.46g, 3h). Bust r. R/ Horseman l. KM50. Green patina, Good VF

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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    This was the direction I was headed, as well.

    I saw "SOLID..." and knew the denomination was a solidus (of the non-gold, non-ancient kind,) so I headed for the Baltic. Had pretty much figured out Johann Casimir but not gotten to Lithuania yet. I doubt I ever would have pinned down the exact variety.

    Nice sleuthing, @Severus Alexander, and neat find, @mr.j, and thanks for the image enhancement, @TIF.
     
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  10. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    I think you're right, 1666. I looked a bit more, and still can't find any with the date ending over the horse's head. (Also, I think schilling and solidus are equivalent in this context.)
     
  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I am amazed that TIF got what she got out of the image originally presented. I didn't recognize it and I own one. They are common for 1661 but I do not know the range. Perhaps there is somone over on CT's wold coins area that knows these???
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  12. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..ain't these peeps simply amazing...coin sleuths to the maximum potential i tell ya!..
     
  13. mr.j

    mr.j New Member

    Hi all,

    This coin was found in the Lviv area, Ukraine so that matches the suggested origin.
    I'll get some additional details like size and weight by end of week.

    I tip my hat to you all not only for the impressive expertise but also the friendliness and helpfulness.

    I guess we'll investigate the immediate region a bit more then :)
     
  14. roman99

    roman99 Well-Known Member

    I have literally have hundreds of these, I'll post em later.
     
  15. AUAGBUG

    AUAGBUG Member

    Very impressive!
     
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